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Can APM be tracked?

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10 years ago
Can player actions be seperated from non-human actions in any real sense?

APM may be something that may be directly correlated with skill of players.

If this is so, perhaps APM could be tracked and maybe included into elo calculations?
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FIrankFFC
10 years ago
dosent it...show that at end of game...
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10 years ago
I'm not sure if you can differentiate player/widget commands externally. You might be able do it with a local widget I think.

Spring currently tracks mouse movement distance and clicks per minute so that's some measure of player APM, but not really a good one.

APM increase generally increases skill, but the correlation is only general. For example you can get to 2k Elo with 10 APM by spamming Singu. You can also have 400 APM and be a 1100 if you use it wrongly. APM cannot be used for Elo because nothing except victory/defeat can (see earlier Elo discussions).
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APM increase generally increases skill, but the correlation is only general. For example you can get to 2k Elo with 10 APM by spamming Singu. You can also have 400 APM and be a 1100 if you use it wrongly. APM cannot be used for Elo because nothing except victory/defeat can (see earlier Elo discussions).


Wouldn't that, by this logic, mean that apm has no correlation with elo? I could simply resign every game (with 4 actions the entire game) and probably go from 1100 to 1700 or more.
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10 years ago
There is a fairly strong positive correlation between overall skill level and APM. The correlation between skill level and team ELO, however, is not nearly as strong.
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10 years ago
Skill wins games, speed is a critical component of skill and APM is an imperfect measure of speed. This mostly applies to 1v1 and small team games.

The value of speed and APM can be seen when you duel against somebody who is significantly faster than you and able to exploit that.
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10 years ago
The APM/skill correlation only works in one direction.
Good players usually have high APM.
But some players with high APM maybe just
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10 years ago
Elo is a number that tracks how often you win, modified by how often the opponents win. This is a product of all the upstream factors, APM included. It makes no sense to count it a second time in the Elo calculation.
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10 years ago
but it would be interesting to see it as seperated number, I do not think highest apm == highest elo.
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10 years ago
People used to make a big fuss about MC/M ages ago before there were keybinds and stuff, it was considered pro if you had like 120 MC/M
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science could be done. correlation between successful skuttling, or if apm or F-command is superior in air to air combat. this could end in some nice pie charts.

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