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DOWNVOTES ARE STILL THE DISEASE KILLING OUR COMMUNITY

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USrankBatman
3 months ago
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DOWNVOTES ARE STILL THE DISEASE KILLING OUR COMMUNITY


Eliminate Downvotes.



Better yet!!!!!!!!!!!



turn all downvotes into upvotes starting immediately!


then the forums will be the game, and EVERYBODY WINS!




Also side note: when i lose a game i want to be given 1 krow as a consultation prize.

+9 / -16

LUrankAnir
3 months ago
isn't it unfair to take the people the possibility away to dislike something?

Btw, most people have like 10 times more upvotes then downvotes (i checked like 10 random people)
so it cant't be that bad
+0 / -2



AUrankAdminAquanim
3 months ago
:ravager:
+4 / -1

LTrank[pikts]wolas
3 months ago
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I didnt read whatever you wrote just exericed my right to downvote!

+5 / -11



PLrankAdminSprung
3 months ago
It would seem that your vision has come to fruition, at least partially, USrankBatman. Your karma is below -30 and so your ability to cast downvotes has been removed.
+5 / -1


DErankkatastrophe
3 months ago
complains about downvotes being a disease are a disease driving new players away.
+6 / -1

USrankBatman
3 months ago
downvotes are insults
a cheap insult






here is how you prove me wrong:


give everyone who downvoted me 1000 downvotes, see how well they like it



PROVE ME WRONG.



+2 / -6


DErankkatastrophe
3 months ago
any other problems?
+1 / -2

USrankBatman
3 months ago
(edited 3 months ago)

EDIT: this is probably off topic because i posted this in another thread but i reply to a question:
The Other problem is game is too complex for new players.
Keep only the amphibian, vehicle, and air factory.
+1 / -4


CHrankConnetable
3 months ago
Hey USrankBatman, welcome back! It's been a while!


All the Villains are in prison so you can have some rest?
+1 / -1

AUrankSmokeDragon
3 months ago
(edited 3 months ago)

our community is awesome and the game is getting new polish all the time so i think it will be fine.
the idea behind down-votes is that they can be a useful way to communicate the common consensus.
if your getting heaps of down-votes it may be that your starting trouble

just make a clean new account and start some nice topics and you can get some tasty green votes.. people will never know your down-vote past
+6 / -2


CHrankConnetable
3 months ago
DErankChesti, grow up please
+3 / -0

LUrankAnir
3 months ago
free downvotes? :D
+1 / -3


DErankkatastrophe
3 months ago
(edited 3 months ago)

oh and btw Batman DErankRobin was here and was asking for you.... not even kidding
+1 / -1

USrankParadoxFox
2 months ago
New here, but figured I'd point out that the Overwatch forums are among, if not the single most abrasive and toxic video game "forums" I have ever run across in my years of gaming. It's also the only one I know of that allows for downvotes. (other than this one, apparently.)
This could be a chicken/egg thing, but having seen how upset downvotes on the OW Forums have made people, I have my doubts...
+0 / -0



PLrankAdminSprung
2 months ago
If they start visibly contributing to toxicity they will be reconsidered. So far people are very reasonable and show restraint in their use (except in batman's downvote threads because irony).
+2 / -0


JPrankgajop
2 months ago
Depends on the community entirely, as seen on Reddit. Some are elitist, arrogant and anyone asking a question gets downvoted, but in others it's usually only the really toxic behavior that gets downvoted.
+1 / -0

NZrankDouble_Helix_DNA
2 months ago
(edited 2 months ago)

USrankBatman

Try writing your title without capitals except for the start.
Then tell us "how" and "why" downvotes are the disease killing our community.
Then structure your sentences and ideas better -- don't put LARGE CAPITALS IN RANDOM PLACES; you don't need to put 3 empty lines for every small sentence.
Give us evidence-- "downvotes are used by elitists", "trolls use these to downvote quality posts", "Downvotes don't actually show anything bad about the post unless its terrible, at which point its obvious-- posts can be extremely good but someone doesn't like it anyway"
Essentially; add more evidence, reasoning, structure your posts better then your posts would be high-quality and people will not only read what you have to say, they might even take your side of the argument and push for a change.

quote:
DOWNVOTES ARE STILL THE DISEASE KILLING OUR COMMUNITY

Eliminate Downvotes.

Better yet!!!!!!!!!!!

turn all downvotes into upvotes starting immediately!


then the forums will be the game, and EVERYBODY WINS!

Also side note: when i lose a game i want to be given 1 krow as a consultation prize



The thought most people get while reading this is; This guy doesn't want downvotes because he gets them a lot despite the fact his posts are not high quality
quote:

Try this;

Downvotes are a disease which harms our community which in turn causes lots of people to turn away from Zero-K
I see that due to the ability to liberally use downvotes, people can choose to downvote posts with quality content "for the memes" or simply because they dislike that person on the forums.

The freedom to use downvotes can also be harnessed by trolls by simply downvoting someone's post for absolutely no reason.
Downvotes also don't serve any useful purpose; generally a downvote is used only because that particular person dislikes someone's post, meaning that downvotes are only "surface deep" -- in other words; its only an opinion of a person and doesn't give any meaningful information about that post; A -1 on the bottom right hand corner doesn't tell anyone if the post has faulty logic, has insufficient information, has incorrect information, or what they are suggesting is harmful to the community. All it tells us is that someone doesn't like the post.

Because of this; I think downvotes should be removed to stop "trolls" or "salty people" from downvoting a person's post without any actual reason besides "For the memes" and "I don't like this guy because he beat me in Zero-K". While I see that downvotes can be used constructively by disagreeing with someone, which can lead to helpful and meaningful discussions, oftentimes that "meaningful and helpful" discussion only happens when the downvotee writes a counterargument to the person he downvoted. Because this is exceedingly rare; it would be better to simply remove the negative influence within the Zero-K forum as it only creates division between members of our community and rarely leads to meaningful discussion.



While not my very best argument, and certainly not my best format, this post allows people to have a meaningful discussion by either adding something onto it, or attacking the points like "rarely leads to meaningful discussion" by throwing a counter -- it does lead to meaningful discussion most of the time, with the downvotee replying in a coherent paragraph or showing that the "-1" sign actually does give us more data than "I don't like this post and thus I press the downvote button"


I took the time to reply in detail mostly because no one else seems to; if you're just trolling, then I've only lost 15 minutes and perhaps it might even show someone how to write a decent post. On the other hand; if you are serious, then hopefully this post will show you how to write a decent post which makes meaningful discussions within the community, and then you might be able to have a consensus on removing/adding something you want into Zero-K




EDIT; YES I KNOW HIS POST IS 13 DAYS AGO. I wrote this in case he decides to write another post (which I think is highly likely)-- Also, I can't honestly stand mocking replies without showing what he is doing wrong -- I think anything which stops helpful and meaningful discussion within the Zero-K community needs to be addressed (addressed, not "stopped" or "punished"even though that seems to be the connotation the word carries)



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I think if you genuinely care about a downvote on your post that you really need a sense of perspective on life. Its a mechanic for showing agreement or disagreement with the content or tone of a post, nothing more
Except it doesn't actually show you what you disgree/agree with on his post-- it just shows that you disagree, no one knows whether its just part of the post or whether its the whole post, unless the downvotee responds with a counterargument, which is probably more helpful.
Also --
quote:
cheap insults
trolling people or downvoting simply because he feels like it generally doesn't help; imagine a campaign rally where someone just boos because he/she has a loud voice...

+6 / -0



GBrank[GBC]1v0ry_k1ng
2 months ago
I think if you genuinely care about a downvote on your post that you really need a sense of perspective on life. Its a mechanic for showing agreement or disagreement with the content or tone of a post, nothing more.
+5 / -0



PLrankAdminSprung
2 months ago
quote:
turn all downvotes into upvotes starting immediately!

So this happened. The downvote has been turned into an upvote but its value is still -1.



http://zero-k.info/Forum/Post/182266#182266
+4 / -0
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