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Title: SMALL TEAMS: (Max 8 people) All welcome
Host: CZrankHydrogen5
Game version: Zero-K v1.2.4.8
Engine version: 91.0
Battle ID: 251677
Started: 10 years ago
Duration: 15 minutes
Players: 4
Bots: False
Mission: False
Rating: Casual
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Team 1
Chance of victory: 51.9%

GBrankSab
RUrankYurGa
Team 2
Chance of victory: 48.1%

RUrankYogzototh
Skasi

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10 years ago
Casted on YouTube for 2014/04/19 2v2 Tournament.

Group M, Game 2.
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Skasi
10 years ago
Gosh, Panther wars is so awful. I mean it's fun to watch, but with Panthers it's so hard to avoid all-or-nothing battles. Even a slight advantage can be enough for one group to emp and kill the enemy without any real losses.
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That's why I was surprised to see nobody plop hovers.
1) Scrubbers pwn panthers with ease
2) Scrubbers are OK vs scorchers and kodachis
3) Scrubbers are the fastest land raiders in the game
4) Powerful transition options with maces and to some extent scalpels
5) Relatively powerful and high mobility anti-bomber AA

Y U no hover?
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Skasi
10 years ago
Scrubbers get raped hard by any sort of riot. LLTs, Levelers, commanders, even Phoenixes. On that note, Phoenixes need a buff. I've seen so many nice hits with them in tournaments, but the targets always survived 'cause they weren't Scrubbers.
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quote:
Scrubbers get raped hard by any sort of riot

Any sort of riots get raped hard by maces.

That is unless you count banisher as riot, but there are other very powerful counters to that unit in the hover factory.
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Skasi
10 years ago
Well now you got me. You completely turned around the meta. I suggest you win the next 2v2 tournament with hovers! :)
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10 years ago
Scrubbers are hard to use though, they don't have high dps, you need to keep them alive long enough so you can get a big group that one-shots everything they meet.
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I suggest you win the next 2v2 tournament with hovers!

For that I would first need somebody else to volunteer as the organiser :)
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10 years ago
Multiplayer B251349 4 on Trojan_Hills_v02

Scrubbers being good.
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10 years ago
Wait hovers need proof to be good? I remember watching the Godde v Saktoth matches a while back before the scrubber nerf. Totally sold it for me, actually that's why they are my favorite raider nowadays.
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10 years ago
Hover has never been quite the same since the nerf, but the Scorcher nerf helped bring it back in a bit. The other hovers are sort of naff though, there is no really strong transition out of it.
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Skasi
10 years ago
AUrankAdminSaktoth, that replay is missing Panthers.
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10 years ago
Scrubbers are great against panthers. You can get more than 3 per panther and a deathball of scrubbers will kill a lot of panthers before they can do much damage. The effect is even more pronounced in battles with less units. 7 scrubbers vs 2 panthers will go to the scrubbers.
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10 years ago
quote:
The other hovers are sort of naff though, there is no really strong transition out of it.

Dunno, maces are pretty mean http://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/248281
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10 years ago
As another fun note for panthers, scrubbers actually have enough health to waste quite a few panther shots just to kill one scrubber. The other hover units are all pretty good at what they do, I want to see how the claymore eventually interfaces with opponents in ground combat.
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