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Tactics against sfireman

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10 years ago
Ohomm,I make this thread, to help others how to beat sfireman in games,a help to newbies.I want to see some tactics here,like if you destroy his.... he will..... etc.Im to lazy to write it down! you can find sfireman, he renamed to [TROLL]reportman!Im to lazy to write down the tactics! please help me!
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10 years ago
Kill his commander. He will resign.
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sfireman uses tactics that win games because they force a reaction outside of basic play (gently expanding and making riots/skirmishers/assaults). For example, Krow forces players to make concerted AA. If they dont they lose.

The beauty of it is, most players are so, so bad that making them do anything besides gently expand and defend a small tract of land of front with defences makes them fall over. React? They can't, they dont, they won't. They die because they play RTS but play much like an AI, performing a fixed behavior.

Next, players can react.. but UNDER-react... and die when it turns out not to be enough.

They can react.. and not have the skill or practice to use the unit - running AA piecemeal into the krow, running their AA into ground defences, throwing their fighters into AA or at the krow at the wrong moment.

they can over-react, spamming AA for the rest of the game and forgetting to play.. they die.

This demand for the correct reaction is the primary feature of a sfireman strat. Its cheese, but on a big scale. Nukes demand anti nuke, trollcom demands skuttle/spy, drops require fighters and ground force coordination, scythes require concentration, singu requires aggression.

nabs fail at all these things horribly. Forcing a reaction = defeating bad players. And good players, if they are teamed with bad players who fail to react. Viva Le sifreman.
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10 years ago
Step 1. !votekick
Step 2. !lock

profit! Supreme ownage is not when you beat your enemy, but when you win without fighting
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10 years ago
deal with it
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10 years ago
Typical sfireman's tactic:
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10 years ago
that gif is old, well known, and can be found deep inside the forum's appendix. sfireman's reaction to that:
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10 years ago
Just wait when his allies will resign. Sometime it can happen in first 5 min.
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10 years ago
Kill his comm or his krow,what he rushes,he will resign and turn against his own team!
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In the games I've played against sfireman he seems to do the same thing over and over. Predictable behaviour after you see it happen the first time. Its "flavours" he goes thru. For example his current flavour seems to be rush bomber and a few avengers into commanders. The avengers attempt to finish the commander while the bombers retreat. Early scouting will tell you what he is going to do as he is quite predictable. Once this strategy fails instead of adapting he often resigns. If he doesnt krow rush he singu rushes. If he doesnt do either of those and makes an air factory you can expect either a phoenix scout or this avenger+shadow crap. Survive that he'll rage and resign.

It doesn't just take killing his com to make him resign EErankAdminAnarchid its defeating his strategy that makes him resign - be it troll com, avenger+shadow rush, singu rush, krow rush, or otherwise.

For krow rush a simple fix is Flails. Flails are faster and outrange the krow as well as dealing high alpha. 15-20 of them and you will down a krow in less than three vollies. They also defeat his avenger/shadow strategy as they will take out an avenger guaranteed if they launch a missile.

For trollcom, a simple skuttle or spy will handily defeat him. Snipers are okay too but if he has one of those jumpy coms a spy or skuttle will do best. Snipers you would need to set these on hold fire and get a small group of them going -- enough to suddenly kill his commander.

Another rarer strategy he uses is com napping -- havent seen him do this in a while. Light AA will usually scare him away. Target the gnats first tho as this will prevent the transport from working its magic.

On smaller maps he may try Black Dawn rush. Get some mobile AA (Flails are a good idea due to their high alpha) and cover your coms. Or even better: bait him into attacking your com and ambush the bd with jethros. FUN.

For his scything crap, just set up fleas in a line covering a front or implement anti-scythe defenses (solars in a row surrounding a LLT or otherwise). He usually uses these to attack commanders, singus, fusions, or factories. Terraform walls (10 high I think blocks kbot movement type) also works.

General Advise:
Just communicate with your team, have your air scout him quickly and he poses little to no threat against a competent team or a team that will listen to someone. If someone says make AA, make some AA -- preferably mobile aa. If you see he is trying troll com, make anti-heavy or ticks+eraser.

Happy hunting.
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10 years ago
Sfireman should be proud that he is a main subject of many threads.
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10 years ago
haha Banana :D
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Firepluk
You don't need any tactics, just use this link, @Jellal

1. GOTO http://zero-k.info/Users/ReportToAdmin/185685
- admins are too dumb to investigate the reported problem, they ban without court, or their court are too prejudiced

2. Find a couple of other annoyed noobs and tell them to go to this link too.
- it doesn't matter with what they were annoyed

3. PROFIT?!?!?

P.S. but be careful, this might create 2nd Anteep.
right now I just do not have enough free time to waste it on pointless
while (sfireman.IsAlive) {
var smurf = sfireman.CreateSmurf();
while (!smurf.IsBanned) { smurf.FindGame(); smurf.TK(); }
}
but who knows xD
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but be careful, this might create 2nd Anteep.

There is something wrong with anyone who has nothing better to do than cause trouble for an open source RTS community. Such "people" should be launched into space in a trashcan.
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I wanted to say "Just ban he", but... eem.. well... hes bannaned already.



BTW, why are u banning for being a "horrible person" ;o
*browsering CoC*
Nope, CoC doesnt disallow being a horrible person.

Can we ban GBrankTheSponge becasue I dont like him, then?



And nope, I'm not defending @[TROLL]reportman . I haven't seen the game I'm not the one to judge. But when you are banning / muting some1 at least give valid reason that is supported by CoC, not "Hes bad, horrible and Idont like him, ban he". Preferably it could contain link to report (if reported), link to battle, reason (from CoC), and the rule number (from CoC) that was broken.
Will make things clearer, won't it?
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FIrankFFC
10 years ago
BAN HE!!!!!
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10 years ago
The argument that all admin actions must be supported by the CoC has been put forward before and rejected because the trolls would always find a way around it and there would be a ton of arguments about what the wording means. "Being a horrible person" usually means "driving away players" to a ZK admin.
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Firepluk
GBrankTheSponge, regarding this logic u have to ban half of dev team, they are driving away players with their horrible developments
As I said before, they started to fail to provide reasonable reasons to ban me :D
So, next time just write "I don't like you, you have been banned for 100500 hours"

GBrankTheSponge, CoC is the law, if u are acting out of CoC what differs you from an offender?
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Yup, he's kinda right. What is the point of having CoC, when u punish for a reasons which are not mentioned there? U make confusion. Players have no idea what they can and cannot do, cuz each of you ((b)admis) have their own, unwritten, law.
It's not the 1st time u mention that ure not following teh CoC b/c trolls would have a point to argue. So is teh CoC for trolls, or for players?
Fix the CoC, ask players what should be bannable, what should be warnable, what should be allowed, and follow the fucking rules you've made yourself.
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"Being a horrible person" usually means "driving away players" to a ZK admin.

Eem, is a reason for admins, punished player, or every admin, pushined and other player?
I think the last. So if only admins can understand teh reason, be prepared to have more, much more law breaks like this, b/c players dont know what the ydid wrong.
" "Being a horrible person'? WTF, I won't change my personality to play a fuckign game, go fuck yourself". Thats what I though when I read this ground.
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Firepluk
10 years ago
Also, notice: nobody from admins event tried to talk with me, EErankAdminAnarchid just banned me for 2 weeks because some noob felt annoyed.
I did not: tk/selfd/kicking/exiting etc... Maybe was a bit rude, lol
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