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http://zero-k.info/Users/Detail/204443

FYI this is USrankHONKAHONK (http://zero-k.info/Users/Detail/204443) and I'm NOT the one spamming Uberserver nor doing whatever @KingRaptor is accusing me of. I don't have time for garbage like that and it's not my motive operandi anyway.

If things like this are being parlayed against me then it's likely there are even more that I don't know about. Sure I troll a game now and then, and every one has a rage fit occasionally. But not once have I ever made threats and done any kind of DDOS/SPAM stuff.

I would prefer to get this resolved between Raptor and myself with the help of a 3rd party moderation. Raptor and I have obvious personality conflicts that will be unsolvable in the short term, however I am a big enough person to bury the hatchet over time.

I was banned for a week for teamkilling in a CAI game at the end of the game, that will need to be served, then a month for contesting it with Raptor. I was unable to respond before I was accused of some kind of spam or something.

I was reluctant to start a thread on the forum since it will just turn into a flame war, however I was advised to post one for a COC violation against KingRaptor. COC: "If you feel a moderator has acted unjustly, you may bring it up respectfully through the appropriate channels".

I also contacted GoogleFrog and detrino; GoogleFrog said he would forward and told me to contact another admin.

COC Violation and Arbitration Request.

Document: http://zero-k.info/Wiki/CodeOfConduct

Moderator arbitration is intended to resolve disputes, not prolong them; as such, we expect you to respect and abide by their decisions. If you feel a moderator has acted unjustly, you may bring it up respectfully through the appropriate channels; however, mute/ban dodging of any kind is punishable by immediate banning of any alternate accounts used and an extension or increase in the original punishment.

Punishment in Question:

PENALTY: Repeated use of smurfs to PM spam others in lobby after previous bans
Issued on: 9/16/2014 1:53:58 PM (5 hours ago)
Issued by: @KingRaptor
Site blocked
Lobby blocked
Expires on: 9/17/2114 1:53:58 PM

I will reiterate that I am being unjustly accused and punished for something I have no part of. I suspect that I am being confused and unjustly accredited with the PM spam and the steam forum thread. Additionally, if I am accused of doing something like this then I'm sure the horror stories of things I've done far exceed the reality.

I AM NOT SPAMMING/FLOODING/SMURFING/TURDING! I HAVE BEEN UNJUSTLY ACCUSED WITHOUT PROOF OR REPEAL!

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A 100 year ban for something I did not do. A 1 month ban for doing something that did not ruin a game or grief a game in any way.

I would have served the 1 month ban politely in order to not cause I stir. My agreement or disagreement with the 'punishment' is not in question.

However, character assassination and false accusations I will not abide.

To benefit the community as whole, when something happens and there is unsubstantiated penalties leveraged on players that have recently had admin action and interaction, banning all recent bans is not a long term or even sane solution.

I'm not your spammer. I'm not some evil troll that ruins all games, or any game for that matter.

My penalties are the result solely of not deescalating conflicts during the course of games. Whether it was harsh language at failing players or general discontent, never did I blatantly grief or trolled a game solely for the purpose of harming other players.
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9 years ago
I don't know any evidence or other related information, but I welcome that you are approaching this calmly.
It takes some courage to "bury the hatchet" for the time being, especially when faced with a permaban. Let's hope this gets resolved quickly and properly.
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Sorry, but I am going to call bull**** on this one. My trust goes with the admins far more than some griefer that thinks they can pull this kind of stuff and then just come on the forums and deny it.
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@Kualabear First Login: 8 hours ago, Last Login: 4 minutes ago

You could be the spammer smurf. One thing is for for sure, I am not. I am using appropriate channels and vernacular to protest my innocence.

I feared this would degenerate into a flame war.
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USrankNewbiepartyspock
Chat with partyspock in the lobby
First Login: 2 days ago, Last Login: 37 minutes ago

wait...so you createed THIS account 2 days ago, yet you only got banned for 100 years last night.....

So you were already trolling/smurfing on a new account before this happened...
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Listen @Anteep. I am assuming that's who you are. On 9/12/2014 2:04:24 PM (4 days ago) I was punished, that's 2 days AFTER @KingRaptor. I'm not going to further degenerate this thread by arguing with you.

This thread is to use the Code of Conduct and the appropriate channels to clear my name of the wrong doing I am being falsely accused of.

I am not saying I am not guilty of being a substandard behavior, but I am NOT guilty of this punishment for some sort of PM spam.
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Hi. My opinion might not matter much here but I'd like to say something.

I suspect @[anteep] is to blame for this pm nonsense too. It fits his behaviour pattern pretty well. I think @partyspock / @Honkahonk was a victim of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. @Honkahonk is not known (as far as I am aware, and I can be wrong here) to do this sort of pm flood nonsense whereas @[anteep] is. Another vital piece in @honkahonk's case, he is not known to have knowledge of how to make bots for uberserver (as far as I am aware) where as @[anteep] is known to do this stuff on a semi-frequent basis.

As for @Kualabear, he is a definite @[anteep] smurf. Notice he is trolling the forums after his little escapade... suspicious much?
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I will allow you four lies, Mede. You've already used up two of them.
-Belisarius, An Oblique Approach, Eric Flint and David Drake

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I suspect that I am being confused and unjustly accredited with the [...] steam forum thread.

You, toot, are zerpzerp in this Spring forum thread (this is easily verified by the IP records). SoCheese in the Greenlight comment thread is thus clearly you, for reasons I've already explained here. Lie #1.

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I would have served the 1 month ban politely in order to not cause I stir.

Your response to the 1 week lobby ban was to make not one, but two baww threads on forum, in which you accused me of all manner of misdeeds. Your response to previous bans was to defame the ZK team using smurfs in at least two instances, and apparently to ban dodge multiple times as well. I have about as much reason to believe you'd be nice and quiet about this one for the sake of avoiding drama as I do to believe your typical domestic abuser when he promises not to do it again without any oversight. Lie #2.

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Sure I troll a game now and then, and every one has a rage fit occasionally

No mention of how you repeatedly and deliberately lied, misrepresented others, and generally engaged in intellectual dishonesty during forum conversations (we'll leave aside all the times you verbally abused others on this forum). This is practically Lie #2.5.

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My penalties are the result solely of not deescalating conflicts during the course of games. Whether it was harsh language at failing players or general discontent, never did I blatantly grief or trolled a game solely for the purpose of harming other players.

You have previous bans for, among other things, spec cheating, teamkilling (and I don't mean this recent case) and teamkilling then attempting to frame someone for it. The fact that you apparently think your intent not being "solely" to harm other players (pull the other one) constitutes an excuse does not incline me to do anything that would let you back in the game.

You now get to persuade me your argument with @Kualabear isn't a sock puppet show, either done alone or with GBrank[Anteep]. Start by explaining why the only two IPs recorded to user NLrankHonkHonk ( http://zero-k.info/Users/Detail/263796 ) are your home IP, and Anteep's.
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@KingRaptor I am not GBrank[Anteep]. There is no possible way USrankHONKAHONK has the same IP as @[ANTEEP].

I did not make the Steam Post.
I did not make DM spam, I use flobby.

#1 You are making assumptions based on public content. I did not make the Steam thread.

#2 I made ZK threads contesting and showing my case because you feel it necessary to throw insults then lock threads to make it unable to respond. You throw out some kinda of threat then prevent users from responding. I wasn't the only one in that thread that brought your demeanor up.

#2.5 WTF is "intellectual dishonesty"? Someone doesn't agree with you on something so you ban, block, or otherwise punish them. Get over yourself.

http://zero-k.info/Users/Detail/263796 NLrankHonkHonk - THAT IS NOT AN ACCOUNT I CREATED !!! If you are saying NLrankHonkHonk has the same IP as @Anteep then that's because its an @Anteep smurf. That is a french flag and probably @Anteep cheating using a smurf account on the opposite team.


USrankHONKAHONK is my account!!! A renamed toot.

You are totally insane and throwing out baseless accusations because you would have to admit you made is mistake in punishing me for something I did not do.

I have been playing spring since the time before CA. In the 4-6 years of dealing with insanity from admins like you, If I was going to pull something it would have been years ago.

I fully stand by my post that you should have your admin removed. This proves it even more.


Here is what I think what has happened.

GBrank[Anteep] has been trolling you admins for months after whatever drama you all escalated like children. Up the public banning and dispute between @KingRaptor and USrankHONKAHONK, GBrank[Anteep] took the opportunity to fire up the trolling again in order to blame someone else and epic troll you. You spamming didn't happen until 1-2 days AFTER the thread was created. Why? Because until the thread there was nothing public about it.

GBrank[Anteep] knew you are aggressive, hostile, and seem to have a very arrogant attitude. Anteep also knew you would overact. You @KingRaptor have been successfully uber trolled and I just got caught in it. (THESE ARE NOT INSULTS THEY ARE OBSERVATIONS!)


If you are falsifying IP logs or data in the admin side of the site to hide your mistake, that is despicable.

I AM NOT ANTEEP.
I AM NOT THE SPAMMER.
I AM NOT THE CREATOR OF THE STEAM THREAD.
YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT ME.


If any admin other that @KingRaptor wants to talk calmly and rationally to get to the bottom of this, I wold be more than willing.

Mumble, TeamSpeak, Skype are all available. All my connections will come from the same US based geographical location. Arizona.
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Ah, the mask slips.

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@KingRaptor I am not GBrank[Anteep]. There is no possible way USrankHONKAHONK has the same IP as GBrank[Anteep].

Are you actually going to address the claims I actually made, or only the ones you think I made?

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I did not make DM spam, I use flobby.

A complete non sequitur.

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You are making assumptions based on public content

So what, I should make assumptions based on your say-so instead of the evidence?

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I made ZK threads contesting and showing my case because you feel it necessary to throw insults then lock threads to make it unable to respond. You throw out some kinda of threat then prevent users from responding. I wasn't the only one in that thread that brought your demeanor up.

1) There is nothing in either of my posts in "Why exactly? that can be reasonably construed as an insult. Lie #3.

2) I locked the thread because it was demonstrated that you had no intention of having a reasonable discussion. That is my prerogative as a moderator.
I threatened to impose more severe penalties on you if you were made another baww thread in violation of the rules, which is also my prerogative as a mod. You did, so I did.

3) If you want to cite the endorsement of someone like Drone as a good thing instead of treating it in the appropriate manner, you're welcome to to it.

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WTF is "intellectual dishonesty"? Someone doesn't agree with you on something so you ban, block, or otherwise punish them. Get over yourself.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=intellectual+dishonesty&l=1

Or if you want a specific instance of you doing that: here
(I'm being generous and not counting the obviously faulty arguments like "I won the game, my teamkilling was perfectly okay!)

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THAT IS NOT AN ACCOUNT I CREATED !!!

Yeah, you didn't create it (nor did I say you did), it only has your IP. I asked you to explain why it does. You seem to be unable or unwilling to do this.

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I have been playing spring since the time before CA. In the 4 years of dealing with insanity from admins like you, If I was going to pull something it would have been years ago.

"I didn't murder that guy all this time, so I wouldn't do it now!" What an obviously silly argument.

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I fully stand by my post that you should have your admin removed. This proves it even more.

Fascinating narrative, companion. How about your posts that prove you should, in fact, be permabanned?

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If you are falsifying IP logs or data in the admin side of the site to hide your mistake, that is despicable.

And I'm the one charged with "throwing out baseless accusations." Sure.

So, here is what I think happened:
- You got banned, made baww threads about it.
- Anteep subsequently contacted you (he made posts on the second thread with the line "We're working on something big, so don't worry" which were subsequently deleted), possibly sharing one or more of his tools with you. Exhibit A: the HONKHONK account in common.
- You colluded with him to troll the ZK community. This fact alone is sufficient grounds for the permaban as far as I'm concerned, regardless of whether you actually directly participated in the PM spam or not.

You have one lie left. I suggest not wasting it.
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I 'm not lying. It can't have my IP. NLrankHonkHonk or whatever is not my account and has a french flag.

I will always have a US based IP. Always. I don't have the time or motivation to setup VPN's to connect to this game.

I am not in some big conspiracy with GBrank[Anteep]. You and I both have been trolled. It's unfortunate and the only logical truth.

RE: 4-6 years: It's not a silly argument. You are nothing compared to the LoeT clan from BA, if I was going to troll people or do some kind of spam, it would have been those idiots. They used to ban you if they didn't like you playstyle at at the time had the only populated DSD hosts. And at the time DSD caused massive rage among the community because there was a set way to tech and play, and you had to do only that to win.

Drone was polite and brought up a valid point from observation. You then chastised him and called it a baaaaww. (crying)

I used to host a SPADS ffs.


It's fairly clear you are not going to be reasonable and going to do everything to save face after making a mistake in accusing me of being an GBrank[Anteep] smurf or spammer or cohort.

I think you used to be in GBC with Ivory. Is that where you got all this hatred of me from?
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Everything you said below is a baseless lie. I didn't know who this Anteep was before you brought it up. I didn't make 'baaaaw' threads, I asked why I was banned for a game that was not grief or affected in any way and you went ballistic and escalated the conflict.

I didn't collude with anyone. Ever.

We don't have a HONKHONK account in common. I don't even know what you are talking about. Even If I had something to do with that, why would I make an obvious troll. Obvious trolls are obvious. Here, have a biscuit.

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- You got banned, made baww threads about it.
- Anteep subsequently contacted you (he made posts on the second thread with the line "We're working on something big, so don't worry" which were subsequently deleted), possibly sharing one or more of his tools with you. Exhibit A: the HONKHONK account in common.
- You colluded with him to troll the ZK community. This fact alone is sufficient grounds for the permaban as far as I'm concerned, regardless of whether you actually directly participated in the PM spam or not.
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@KingRaptor if you feel I've attacked then I apologize. That is all I can do. That's all anyone can do.

Your allegations against me are false and overblown. That is all I can say about it.


I wasn't part of some elaborate troll/spam collusion.
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9 years ago
I think that the burden of proof is being shifted to toot and that is bad. Other than anteep's IP on toot's account (which doesn't prove he is guilty of this particular offense) what evidence do we have that he was the spammer?
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The account NLrankHonkHonk that @KingRaptor mentioned is indeed most curious and needs bringing up again. Like KR mentioned, it has been accessed from only 2 different IP addresses. One of them is the most common IP address used to access the account USrankHONKAHONK aka toot. The other one is the most common IP address used to access the account GBrank[Anteep].

No additional comments about that? It's also ironic that this account just happens to have an account name that differs from toot's by only capitalization and one letter, although toot declares
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NLrankHonkHonk - THAT IS NOT AN ACCOUNT I CREATED !!!
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GBrankTheSponge

USrankHONKAHONK is my account. @KingRaptor is saying I co-created an account with GBrank[Anteep] and then basing my accusations off of that.

The account @KingRaptor is referencing is this one. I didn't create it 9 months ago.

http://zero-k.info/Users/Detail/263796

I renamed toot recently to USrankHONKAHONK because I thought Skasi Honk! was amusing. Then created the HONK clan.

This doesn't make any sense. I am addressing ( http://zero-k.info/Users/Detail/263796 ). I didn't create it, ever login to it, or have anything to do with it.

Look at the battle history, it's playing games with Anteep.

I shouldn't have any IP in common with anyone other than someone in the Phoenix Metro Area that uses my same internet provider.


I don't know what's happening here but if an IP from USrankHONKAHONK is somewhere else then I have no idea how it is possible and have no recourse.
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9 years ago
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I don't have the time or motivation to setup VPN's to connect to this game.

When you spend this much time making huge posts about how unjustly the admins are treating you, your words go from "say-so" to "transparently ridiculous."
Also, lie #4.

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Drone was polite and brought up a valid point from observation.

http://zero-k.info/Forum/Post/105505#105505
http://zero-k.info/Forum/Post/105511#105511
We have different definitions of "polite."

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I used to host a SPADS ffs.

This is so irrelevant it hurts.


TL;DR: Remember the boy who cried wolf? You would have done well to remember that story before things like your zerpzerp episode, or the teamkilling framing, or... well, half the things you've done over the years.

You have exhausted your already generous quota. The next lie will result in an immediate ban and lock.
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There's something weird with this HonkHonk account (http://zero-k.info/Users/Detail/263796). I don't doubt it being an Anteep smurf though.

Now, a couple of weeks ago, toot's @honkahonk account was called HONKHONK. So did at this time an account called honkhonk exist twice in the database? And is this how that Anteep smurf also caught toot's IP?

And let me just say, better not cry about the possible confusion, toot, if you rename once a week.

Edit: Also, sorry for the backseat modding, just thought I'd speak my mind.
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@KingRaptor There you go making threats.

"You have exhausted your already generous quota. The next lie will result in an immediate ban and lock. "

I am not lying and have told the 100% truth. Thanks for your time.
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