Placeholder full stunning Fencers for the whole duration of its ability is fairly silly, i find. Fencer should keep ability to fire as long as it's unpacked, even if moved involuntarily.

As-is, it's just a massively arbitrary difference in how one unit reacts to placeholder compared to literally everything else, including other units with movement-locked abilities - Crab doesn't stop being armored when placeholdered, for example.

Also: captured jack teamkilled by ravens 0_o

(Also, really decent play by ATOSTIC)

Get jiggy with it and push armored crabs around with an army of fleas.

Placeholder should account unit cost of what it holds.
It's absolutely stupid that a single placeholder can completely hold fat troll com for over 10k metal in place... Basically sentencing it to death. You can't even terrasink uself.

quote: It is written that the fencers cannot attack when it is in motion.

Yeah and crab is armored as long as it is not in motion. Are you suggesting Crab should lose its armor when hit by a placeholder?

Impaler cannot hit moving units except by accident. You must be confusing it with Emissary.

Oh sometimes Impaler hits moving units by mere coincidence.

quote: in the final among others it hits a newly captured jack

So it kills an allied unit that has become static because of being captured. Very useful.

quote: it strikes the target from a great distance and with millimeter precision, including moving units

quote: you use terms that are not really polite, especially as a moderator

Almost unique among other ZK units classed as artillery, Impaler cannot hit mobile units with any accuracy except by accident. It doesn't even try to lead its targets, it shoots at wherever the unit currently *is*, not where it will be by the time the missile hits.

Sometimes it will hit things by accident where it fired at some place where one unit was, and by the time projectile landed, another unit occupied the spot. Sometimes it will hit mobile units that are not moving at the time, granted they are visible - it has abysmal accuracy when firing by radar.

But if you insist that Impaler can perfectly hit moving targets, you are either mistaken, or you're deliberately saying untrue things. Because assuming the latter would be unkind, i assumed the former.

But then you also insist that you are not mistaken.

I'm sorry, but this is laughable. I can't take you seriously if you do this.

Okay, sorry for the confusion then!

The biggest tank in the game doesnt sound like something that intuitively should be so stoppable

Sorry, I got my terminology wrong. What I meant to say is that Placeholder applies force, so the resulting acceleration takes mass into account.

Placeholder didn't seem OP in that game. It looks like it could barely hold the rovers in place compared to what venom can do. Maybe it just needs more detail in the description on what it is supposed to be able to do.