Battle 1164097 detail - Zero-K

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Map: Intersection v4.1

Intersection v4.1

Title:	MM 1776: 1v1 Narrow, Rank Neutron Star
Host:	Nobody
Game version:	Zero-K v1.9.7.0
Engine version:	104.0.1-1544-ge1f249f
Battle ID:	1164097
Started:	2 years ago
Duration:	20 minutes
Players:	2
Bots:	False
Mission:	False
Rating:	Competitive

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Team 1
Chance of victory: 66.7%

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RiposteR

Team 2
Chance of victory: 33.3%

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dyth68

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dyth68 2 years ago (edited 2 years ago) There was still a game there until the phantoms arrived, then it felt hopeless. I have no idea how to counter phantoms with any factory, if I'm facing cloakbot and it's reached the stage where phantoms exist I have no idea what to do. Is there any counter to properly microd phantoms? The biggest problem is how deceptively fast they are at 42 elmo/s (Cyclops is 57 for comparison), a Bouy will basically never catch them while an Archer takes over 1300 elmo to enter decloak radius (good luck with that!). A large duck spread can find them only if there are no Reavers to melt them. +1 / -0
izirayd 2 years ago there is no counter-play against protected phantoms. The maximum you can do is switch to cheap artillery, such as slings or badges, or, if you can hide, then firewalkers. +1 / -0
PRO_Dregs 2 years ago Depending on which factory I started with, there's at least 3 phantom counters in my repertoire. One is a guaranteed success, the other two are hopeful at best. They do exist. +1 / -0
dyth68 2 years ago What are they? Badgers seem like a possibility... Maybe Phoenix? +0 / -0
katastrophe 2 years ago Firewalker (keep distance, use puppies to keep the cloaks away) +0 / -0