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Map: Zed 1.7
 Zed 1.7
Title: 1v1: All welcome!
Host: CZrankElerium
Game version: Zero-K v1.3.11.3
Engine version: 100.0
Battle ID: 386173
Started: 8 years ago
Duration: 26 minutes
Players: 2
Bots: False
Mission: False
Rating: Competitive
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Team 1
Chance of victory: 80.1%

PLrankOrfelius
Team 2
Chance of victory: 19.9%

USrankdorsh
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EErankAdminAnarchid
BErankFlipstip
CZrankElerium

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PLrankOrfelius
8 years ago
Any suggestions? Other than "don't go tanks on this map".
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BErankFlipstip
8 years ago
There's a lot of suggestions by me in the specchat, during the second half of the game.
You were doing ok, but tanks don't have an answer vs scalpels+ penes, at the numbers present. Blastwings were good, you should have made more of those and less tanks ( especially no reapers).
You could also have raided the other flank with banshees and maybe even the fusions.
But better would have been to switch to bots. Best would be jumpjets imho: pyros to raid flanks and maybe kill base, skuttles for penes, firewalker for scalpels.
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RUrankivand
8 years ago
(edited 8 years ago)
I think first unit that comes out of HV fac should be kodachi, cause you never raided, except than midgame banshee strike.

Area cloakers would've definitely been helpful. Also I have a feeling that you underinvested into artilery. Pilagers on endless move + possibly cloaker behind some porc would've caused pain.

Some planted roaches or FW could've eliminated annoying scalpels.

Perhaps cloaky switch to scythes and snipers...
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PLrankOrfelius
8 years ago
Kodachi would not do anything because it needs an escape route to harass and Zed doesn't provide one. Otherwise it is just a wasted metal. Overall I agree with cloaked roach concept. USrankdorsh lacked any decent micro or any proper methods of engagement (thus enabling me to last that long). shieldfac + 3 roaches + eraser are much cheaper than one goliath and be much more cost effective at that.
Switch to cloakies would mean I would insta lose since they have literally no defense system against hovers. Everything just dies. Halaberds would shread my sniper to pieces in seconds and it would nab 1-3 scalpels at most. Scythes insta-die to scalpels.
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EErankAdminAnarchid
8 years ago
(edited 8 years ago)
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Scythes insta-die to scalpels.

Scythe costs just 30 more than a Scalpel, and kills one scalpel in the absolutely worst engagement scenario (deals one stab, other Scalpels launch salvo which annihilates both Scythe and Scalpel). A healthy Scythe takes two Scalpel salvoes to kill.

Given 1:1 ratio of Scythe and Scalpel and adequate positioning, the likely outcome is dead Scalpels unless he has other support.
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EErank[ISP]Lauri
8 years ago
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Kodachi would not do anything because it needs an escape route to harass and Zed doesn't provide one.

Why assume it would do nothing? You always seem to assume the worst.

Given good enough control it's almost impossible for it to not deal either direct (killing enemy raiders, mexes, cons, etc) or indirect (forcing more turrets, distracting them from proper ecoing by making them scared of your raids, etc) damage to your opponent's economy even without the enemy base having a backdoor escape route.
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