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Cloaked units are not on hold fire by default

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ESrankElTorero
8 years ago
^
Fix pls, i have lost already too many comms to that >.>
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PLrankFailer
8 years ago
Im sure there is a wupget among default wupgets for this. Make sure its not crashing.
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ESrankElTorero
8 years ago
What's its name? Am I the only one having this problem?
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MYrankAdminHistidine
8 years ago
(edited 8 years ago)
The widget is called Cloak Fire State (under Units section). It was disabled by default due to reasons I can no longer recall precisely but can guess at ("why my units no shoot?!")
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BErankFlipstip
8 years ago
So what should be the default?
When cloaked, you want to avoid being seen. Deciding to fire just takes a right click. default hold fire seems pretty good. Accidentally giving away that you have a cloaked unit can be pretty big (com, scorp, ...)
Imo all units with personal cloak should be on hold fire mode.
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USrank[GBC]1v0ry_k1ng
8 years ago
they should be on return fire, not hold
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BErankFlipstip
8 years ago
Iirc the widget would reset the unit to fire at will upon decloak, so hold or return fire would be the same.
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ITrankOldGhostStalker
8 years ago
(edited 8 years ago)
A toggable "sneaky" mode that keeps units on hold fire on cloak and a "ambush mode" that keeps it on fire at will?

EDIT: NEVERMIND
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PLrankOrfelius
8 years ago
NewUnitsStates?
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BErankFlipstip
8 years ago
The unit states of america?
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PLrankAdminSprung
8 years ago
Next stable there will be a toggle in the F10 menu to auto holdfire cloaked units but the question of default still remains.
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USrankCapricis
8 years ago
Cloaked units with weapons:

Com
Scythe
Gremlin
Spectre
Scuttle
Infiltrator
Ultimatum
Scorpion

I think I prefer having scuttle, infiltrator and ultimatum to start out on hold fire. The rest no. And it's not a big deal for me to toggle what I want to not fire, as I'm going to handle all these units with special care anyways because they all need it (minus gremlin / scythe).

Also does scuttle even detonate without your command?
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PLrankAdminSprung
8 years ago

Sniper and Gremlin won't get hold-fired, by the way.
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AUrankSnuggleBass
8 years ago
My units that are on hold-fire (default unit state) are now going on fire-at-will when leaving cloak. Or at least, this is what I'm told the reason is for my cata shots going to waste.

I don't ever want a cata to fire-at-will or return fire. They do too much damage to not manually fire. Instead of laying waste to shaman's tremor cluster, my cata wasted it on some workers or something. I never got another golden opportunity. What do?
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RUrankTesto
8 years ago
(edited 8 years ago)
Agree, ElTorero. Very bad that auto-switching to stop fire when unit is switched to cloaking was disabled many months ago, and i am surprised that it was not turned on back.
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AUrankAdminGoogleFrog
8 years ago
quote:
My units that are on hold-fire (default unit state) are now going on fire-at-will when leaving cloak. Or at least, this is what I'm told the reason is for my cata shots going to waste.

I don't ever want a cata to fire-at-will or return fire. They do too much damage to not manually fire. Instead of laying waste to shaman's tremor cluster, my cata wasted it on some workers or something. I never got another golden opportunity. What do?
This is why I disabled the widget a while ago. It was then re-added as an option but the widget was not fixed. So, use at your own risk.
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