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8 years ago
I have no idea what you are complaining about, both wiki-software and site-content have already reached 100% completness:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_l117qQxgc8lk8D66oPFIWjngl7cWKnsMoIdHIDuiSI/edit#gid=0
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8 years ago
To be fair, they both work. There's bugs, technical limitations (coughregex parsingcough) and weird issues, but you can't deny that it's still getting the job done.
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Skasi
8 years ago
The first point says "review existing site content" though, so it's not just about "working". Some days ago most of the wiki's pictures disappeared because they were still hosted on google code. The commander- and icon guides are both no longer up to date. The planetwars wiki stuff is uh.. obsolete? I'm not sure what to call it. Anyway, I'd definitely say the "review" task might as well be reset to 0%.
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CZrankAdminLicho said we should reinvent the wheel as it's _simpler_(it's just this and this, and it's done)


It's done, and it's gone.
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8 years ago
War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Plaintext is security.
Wiki is working.
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8 years ago
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To be fair, they both work. There's bugs, technical limitations (coughregex parsingcough) and weird issues, but you can't deny that it's still getting the job done.
The randomly broken bb-code parsing alone is reason enought that it is not "100%".
It is definiately not "getting the job done" as all the broken/old/outdated pages show. Who wants to work with broken software that misses basic features?

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Some days ago most of the wiki's pictures disappeared because they were still hosted on google code.
Shitty-free-picture-hosts go down and google.code goes down. How unexpected. https://github.com/ZeroK-RTS/Zero-K-Infrastructure/issues/612
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I imagine somebody, somewhere, who had both the time and the motivation, could fix (at least some of the) problems with the site.

If a solution based on integrating existing forum/wiki technology is the best solution, I imagine a person with the time, expertise and motivation could arrange that, too.

I am sure anybody willing to volunteer their time in such an effort would be welcomed by both the community and the current contributors.
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It is not as easy as in your imagination.

Say the issue of images, of course someone with time & motivation could re-upload broken images.
The problems are:
-How do you re-upload an image that does not exist anymore?
-How to do you know that an image is broken, without constantly looking through every page?
-Every single one of the shitty-pic-host-sites will eventually go down.
Facit: Endless circle of dumb unnessecary work.

Now maybe you think "So just add this feature to zK-wiki or fix that bug?"
Personally my interest in using wiki-software is medium but my interest in writing new wiki-software is zero.
There already exists wiki-software with all features and without bugs.
Even if someone adds image-upload to zK-wiki there would be so many other features still missing.


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If a solution based on integrating existing forum technology is the best solution, I imagine a person with the time, expertise and motivation could arrange that, too.
Some peoplers want their "zK wiki" because avatars or some shit and even more peoplers religiously believe in that concept.
Alternatives (for ex mediawiki) was suggested but not wanted. It is not a technical issue, it is political.

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There already exists wiki-software with all features and without bugs.

So perhaps somebody should put in the effort to integrate said software with the site. I don't think that anybody would turn down a working solution.

I do, however, imagine that somebody proposing that somebody else should put in all the effort to integrate existing software might meet with a more chilly reception.

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Alternatives (for ex mediawiki) was suggested but not wanted. It is not a technical issue, it is political.

Did anybody actually volunteer to do the work for ex mediawiki? Or to help?

If only one person is willing to put effort in it is unsurprising that their vision (or whatever they believe is feasible to accomplish with their time alone) is the one that gets implemented.
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8 years ago
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Did anybody actually volunteer to do the work for ex mediawiki?
yes. For example some years ago I would have admined wikimedia installation. But peoplers wanted an avatar-wiki and now they have an avatar-wiki.

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I imagine...I imagine...I imagine..I imagine...I do, however, imagine
use less imagination.
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For example some years ago I would have admined wikimedia installation.

Oh, so you might have done some work at some point? Hypothetically?

Given your current antipathy to contributing anything, in favour of ceaselessly bitching, I find that hard to believe.

Put up or shut up, Knorke.

(No, I don't have the time to contribute meaningfully myself. No, I don't exercise myself on the forums trying to tell other people how to do the job they have volunteered to do.)
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For the record, I don't even disagree with you as far as the wiki is concerned. I think a standard style of wiki would probably be considerably easier to maintain and likely more aesthetically pleasing also.

(My opinion on what form of forum technology would be best is not so clear.)

However, I think your attitude is doing nothing but harm, both to the cause of changing the wiki (or what have you) and to ZK as a whole.
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8 years ago
Well, I guess creating a new wiki implementation from scratch is more fun and engaging than plopping in an existing solution and then having to figure out how to best marry the two.

So is the nature of open source projects. (Cue project management discussion.)
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re: http://zero-k.info/Forum/Thread/20328?postID=158283#158283

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Wat is the system behind these wiki tags? Why is HelpForRtsPlayers a tag? Shouldn't it be [Tutorial] or [Guide] or something that also applies to other articles?
That is not a "tag" in usual sense and there are actually no pages with such "[Tutorial]" tag.
It is the name of the page that can be used for links. See http://zero-k.info/Forum/Thread/22366#Linking_to_wiki_pages
Few peoplers use that because the number-url is displayed by default and the name-url requires extra clicking and the number-url is maybe more constant too and there is no function to list broken links.
Articles can be sorted created into subforums but a page-category system as, other wiki-software, uses does not exist.
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Can we haz media wiki plox? Our forums don't count as wiki.
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8 years ago
we can't have mediawiki because it doesnt have avatars
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8 years ago
you can plugin anything to mediawiki, and plugins are not very difficult.
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8 years ago
apparently they are because mediawiki had been proposed and we still ended up with what we have
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On steam launch at least somebody will create one of these. And while I see this site as cancer (so many ads and bad layout), it's better than our current wiki so I'd rather contribute there.

Do you want this to happen?
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8 years ago
There was a window of opportunity where a competent person could propose to integrate an existing wiki engine and be given the chance to do so.

I didn't step forward. Neither did anyone else.
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