Matchmaking pentalies for leavers

I would like some sort of penalty to be introduced for people who leave matchmaking games, specifically in team games.

It's really annoying when you are 15mins+ into a 2v2 or 3v3 and a teammate gets upset or angry and quits. It totally spoils the game and it wastes everyones time.

I only have an hour or two a day at most to play and I like to do some solo and team games. It's really irksome when teammates just quit for trival and unjust reasons.

Please impliment some sort of reputation system or ban system to prevent these types of players from ruining the teams mode.

Thanks.

Resign saves time.

Early unnecessary resigners will be punished with low ELO?

Does it really make a big difference? This isn't a MOBA where you need to micro every unit individually, and sometimes taking control of both armies is better anyway. Granted, two players of equal skill tend to be better than one, but I'd say leaving isn't such a huge impact on balance that people should be forbidden to leave.

From my perspective as a player it is more about playing style (maybe you enjoy fighting more against odds than others) and selecting whom you play with (some people just annoy you).

I would love to have a list of "never play with this guy again" and a list with "play with this guy even if ELO is not in our favor".

(had a funny game when someone in our team resigned and 2 minutes later the whole other team resigned. My opinion was that all the resigns were premature, and that the game was not decided at that point)

Dota has a punishment system for leavers and no voteable surrender option.

My takeaway after 3000 hours of Dota is that if you punish people for leaving they'll just stay and ruin your game. There are also some measures to detect in-game non-participation but people always find a way to work around them. It turns into a cat-and-mouse game between devs and game ruiners to detect bad behavior, and it's very difficult to programmatically differentiate between a ruiner and a bad player who's honestly trying. Time spent developing such a system means less attention to the core gameplay of ZK.

Some examples of behavior in Dota when people want to leave but aren't willing to accept the punishment:

- Walking down mid (like moving your commander to the enemy base at game start and streaming glaives to feed metal)
- Invis AFK (like spamming cloaky AA on hold fire to fool afk detection)
- Team griefing (like spamming snitches to friendly-fire your team mates)
- Feeding intel ("we're making nuke!")

The possibilities for griefing in ZK are even more numerous because of things like terraforming, forced attack, and friendly-fire for all weapons.

Maybe this is better with voteable surrender but if your team won't vote with you I imagine you'd see the same problems. The obvious response is that you could then report griefers for bad behavior but since you're effectively forcing this situation with leaver penalties you'd likely see a massive increase in report volume which means more work for our (volunteer) admins.

I vote for no penalties. There's a lot of evidence from other games showing that if you force someone on the internet to do something they don't want, they'll make it as miserable for you as they possibly can.

quote: Early unnecessary resigners will be punished with low ELO?

Ha-ha! Silly lobster! Low elo is not a punishment it's a BLISS!
Pluks has been exploiting it for years :D

I've always said the ELO system is a nonesense.

However the majority seem to care about it so my suggestion was a pragmatic one rather than any reflection on my personal opinion about what individuals think is a penalty.

There's also those lovely accounts of games being held hostage for 5 hours.