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Replays vs Brutal AI wanted

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2 months ago
Brutal AI has recently had its configuration updated and should be playing noticeably better. To further efforts to tune it, playing a multiplayer game or two VS brutal AI so the replays can be examined would be really helpful!

Although note that replays of beating the AI using Slasher spam &/or Dominatrix isn't helpful.
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https://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/691197

I guess this has pretty much everything brutal can do
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2 months ago
AI is tied to engine version so you're not going to get good responses unless people use that version and the dev AI.
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2 months ago
Does that mean we should use the latest engine version if we are testing this (i.e. not -287)? If so, how is that done with Chobby?
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In the days I use to test, key was bury nano, make guess defence, rush cerebrum. Rush economic, rush det, win. It's Ai, survive rush, impalers, win
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2 months ago
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AI is tied to engine version so you're not going to get good responses unless people use that version and the dev AI.


My latest config is used by the current Brutal AI, although Lamer removed the hardcoded Singu @ 14 minutes again

IIRC dev version will also have better eco scaling as it allows eco over time settings to be entered as an array
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2 months ago
I could do some games vs Brutal ai. Should i do 1v1 or 2v1?
Do you have a pref fac i should fight with?
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2 months ago
That wasn't too hard. I just needed to not be distracted. http://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/691558
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With no cheese, no striders, no planes, no nuke, minimal terraform and moderate porc on a large map Brutal Circuit gave me a run for my money.

Bots B691792 1 on Rogues River v1.0

(There were Fencers and Dominatrices involved... the AI made them.)

This wasn't dev engine though.
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I could do some games vs Brutal ai. Should i do 1v1 or 2v1?


Depends on map size & yo mad skills - Circuit does better at larger maps. 10x10+ map size preferable.

Any fac is useful for info to some degree, although Htank maybe less so.
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2 months ago
Well it kicked my butt. :) I watched a couple brutal vs brutal games and it was some pretty sophisticated play.
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2 months ago
All I play is against brutal. 2v2. Not sure how to get the info to you
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1v2 vs Brutal ai on Titan v3.1 (40min)
Bots B691986 1 on Titan v3.1
http://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/691986?

Start Factory Cloaky, Secondary Air
No superweapons, no Terraform, no Porcpush(DDM,Anni,Behe) and only First Factory + Air/Gs allowed as restrictions.

I might try to do this with every factory (excluding Ships and Strider Hub) if i have time/if it gives valuable information.

Edit: Is Ai on raiding Drugs now? or does it just feel like the ai tries to push with smaller groups of raiders to kill eco even with lotus?
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2 months ago
AI has better threat weighting, so yeah it should raid better!
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Today's 1v2 replay (28min):

Bots B692349 1 on Titan v3.1
http://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/692349?

Start Factory Shield, Secondary Air.
Sadly against the new Ai shield is only worth rouge and nothing more.


In this replay (31min) i died miserably (with a scorpion showing up in my base) trying to use a more shieldbot focused approach with gunships as secondary factory.
Bots B692319 1 on Titan v3.1
http://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/692319?
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2 months ago
idk if this replay can help you 1v0ry_k1ng but i (sniperspam) did a 2v5 with DeinFreund (domispam)
http://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/693178?

But somehow Ai didnt want to use striders in this game. In my 2v1 games ai did spam dantes and scorps all over the place but not in 2v5 which was kinda weird.
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2 months ago
I watched about 20 Brutal Vs Brutal at 20x. It's pretty informative and reinforces some of the things I found playing it directly.

1) It does a very well in micro intensive scouting. It's situational awareness is very good. It will find unprotected mexes quickly

2) It goes for Striders too quickly when it doesn't have the economy to support it. A switch to tank fac would be more appropriate for the games I watched. So a fac switch to something other than striders would be a better 2nd fac.

3) It really wants a signu. Same as above it will build it and really stall out resources. I would recommend building several fusions before the signu as the energy would be available incrementally.
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