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14 days ago

What units do you most often build out of athena, ?

is there units that you never build and what would you add to the unit pool.?


these are the units that i would replace,
halbert
knight
blitz
recluse
moderator
iris
aspis

replace with ,
weaver
snitch
jack
crab
reaver
juggle
charon

+cornea, aegis and adv radar out of the buildings


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14 days ago
Make it random per Athena so people will roll Athenas. Reprap Athena would be a possible roll.
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14 days ago
zerok loot boxes
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14 days ago
maybe once factory pads are finished it could make any unit by simply building a pad
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14 days ago
I have never used the Athena and never seen anyone using it. By the time you can build one its usually too late to try to build stuff behind enemy lines.
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AUrankSmokeDragon

i like making 1 flea here and the other one here but slighty over there



BRrankManored

if the pool's strike capability is augmented that could change
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14 days ago
that makes sense thomas.
iv noticed it can make cost as a reclaimer of frontlines.. if firepluck plays thats how he rushes nukes so fast.. he reclaims all his allies dead units =P its ok with me tho because firepluck is very end game orientated and i am stronger at the start then late game
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14 days ago
fleas
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14 days ago
I think I'd help if there was more of rhyme to what it can build so that you could know what to expect without having to memorize it. Maybe it could have all scout and raiding units in the game but no others beside that. Maybe all factories as well in case you seriously want to open a second frontline behind enemy lines (current Athena already allows you to do this anyways since you can build conjurers).

Buildings can stay the same, me thinks.
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I think I prefere building athena over apmh lab when I want a djinn. Those support class units are the most usefull units for Athena, the likes of Djinn, Aspis, and iris. cloak, shield, teleport. If those are the s-tier units, flea and bandit are A tier units(Widow is A-Tier, but it's an anti-heavy not a raider), and everything else would fall to C tier or less. half of these C-tier units I build only when I WANT to play inefficiently, then the other half are stuff that I don't build athena for, but sometimes build anyway(impaler... maybe phantom).

Conjurer is too good. replace with weaver(or just remove), invis cons behind enemy lines multiplying doesn't sound good.

Lobster would be S-Tier in the unit list.
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would making iris and aspis in their static form then morph make them effective
and would having the 2 slots used on some fato asault or a skirm be a good trade?

weaver or other non cloaked builders would die to radar and force you to build iris



a utility athena more like this
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The Athena's jam range isn't that great, you still need cornea/iris if you want to build an army secretly without having to micro the Athena really carefully.
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13 days ago
it can make conjurer =) area cloak
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13 days ago
Well, that ability was added... a few days ago? I guess you're technically correct in the present time.
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i wouldn't be surprised if everything was in some strange way ~ technically correct in the present time

i mean what if everything exists and in some dimension zeroK is available in VR
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13 days ago
SmokeDragon then 'present time' would also implicitly describe your present location in that multiverse, and at the present time VR zero-k still wouldn't exist. Sadly.


Athena is a unit with a very high cost for what it does, especially if you don't already have a strider hub. The only reason I've ever built one (apart from rezzing my trollcom) is precisely because I wanted to implement a strategy that needed several of the specialist units it can build - like moderators, cloakers, shields, skythes and fleas, so removing cloak and dagger shield from the build options would severely hurt its usefulness.
Snitches or - even better - roaches would be a useful and theme-fitting addition to the athena loadout, though - who doesn't like stealthed stealth mine layers?

While I like the idea of adding some build options, heavy units like crab, reaver or sumo really feel out of place being built by a flimsy, invisible plane - neither do they fit the theme, nor are they particularily useful to a specops nor to a backdoor strategy style.

And instead of charon, I'd suggest adding surfboards to athena (water transports units can shoot from, and which allow mobile sea shielding and cloaking, which in turn would make sea battles much more interesting.
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12 days ago
Just realized I've never built an Athena.
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12 days ago
if any1 wish to try out this is the tweak units string for athena

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11 days ago
- Recluse -> Imp
- Blitz -> Limpet
- Bandit -> Glaive
- Moderator -> Skuttle
- Impaler -> Charon
- Knight -> Lobster
- Halberd -> Scorpion
- Add: Snitch?
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11 days ago
i like it but it should keep the conjurer imho for the area cloak and access to factories
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