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Did I influence the Rover meta?

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2 years ago
I've been in this community for longer than a year now, and I loved every second of it, even when things weren't going well. Before I started playing, I thought that rovers are a joke, and I didn't see anyone play them well, in a calculated manner. After I joined, I got to witness things that got nerfed like Fencer only meta, kodachi retreating meta, and I was one of the first to discover these metas. But what I really wanted to do since I joined this game was bring rovers into the meta. For a long time, I thought that they were quite underpowered, lacking the cool shields shieldbots have, lacking the gimmicky mechanics jumpbots possessed at that time, with the only thing that seemed to stand out being the artillery. Damn, even scorchers seemed to struggle against other raiders! But as I played the game, I started finding interesting interactions between units such as fencers fending off raiders if protected by scorchers, fencers countering lotuses, impalers being useful after constant raids, badgers countering riot units, 5 darts being able to take out a lotus turret and mexes with ease, 5 darts and 3 scorchers being able to take quick work of lone commanders, dominatrixes countering most things tanks throw at them. I made an entire guide, at the end! I might make a small remaster on it once I hit 800 hours in the game.
But the question that really bothered me is if I was able to really bring rovers into the spotlight? I might not be as good as Godde, create a mod like Shaman, or be just as volatile as Firepluk, but knowing that I was able to influence the opinions on my favorite factory in the game would make me happy. :)
I'm prepared for heavy criticism.
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2 years ago
Not in any meaningful manner. But every player influences the meta by participating in the game itself.
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2 years ago
There's a possibility that you made ripples within the circles that you play. Perhaps your guide is useful for beginners. Beyond that, you're perhaps asking for a little too much credit for spreading knowledge that is all too common. Show us something - replays, videos or gifs with new and novel rover use that hasn't been around forever and perhaps you'll achieve influence.
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i have this weird feeling that your an important part of the universe perhaps even more then i can understand.. and i think your essentially supposed to exist.. even if your just made of light..

on topic the meta of cluster pot games.. i dont 1v1 often.. the meta does seem to involve some rovers..

mainly impailer for anti porc.. sometimes domi if done right.. and badger to spoof cloaks, skirms and spam

if its a flat map then the rest of rover line up can raid or rush well at the start but it teeters off quick as the front-lines get reinforced and the ground gets terra/dirts/craters
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2 years ago
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i have this weird feeling that your an important part of the universe perhaps even more then i can understand.. and i think your essentially supposed to exist.. even if your just made of light..


Didn`t you complain a while ago that people thought you where high?
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yeah ^_^ but im not high im crazy.. sigh.. im just going to shut up =P lol

but first some crazy oc..

time does seem to change while your a part of it.. but sooner or later your looking back and its all done.. and it is what was meant to be.. and it all made sense.. at-least to me.. but then again.. i am different.. i defy the darkness.. and offer you a jumbled mess of bodge-job logics that cannot bridge the gap between real and wanted

drugs are dangerous.. i do not advocate or partake in drugs!
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2 years ago
Okay, thanks for the answer people! Godde may not have given me a response, but I learned what I needed anyways! The topic is now closed, but I can't stop people from further sending messages here.
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2 years ago
Guides are cool and all but I'm afraid that all you can really claim is "beign good at rovers" ... which is a pretty decent thing in itself, make no mistake.

The pros analyze the shit out of every new unit change and their interactions. Trust me they know already.

I've only ever found out one original thing in ZK that nobody else knows about and it's almost unusable because it doesn't work every time. And that was after ages of fiddling.
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2 years ago
LOOOOOOOOOL
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yeah sometimes its hard to replicate a bug.. i discovered you can throw those claymore and if you do it just right the mine will fly with the unit inertia and bug out for full map distance.. but that was before it was tweaked.. maybe it still works.. i was using lobster trebs.. lobster a unit and raised newton pull it for a cheaper and faster alternative to ramp.. was hard to build it right but more effective and aim-able using the lobster.

also another bug claymore has is it can shoot over any height walls sometimes .. ?or maybe all the time?.. ?so you can terra it down? ?or terra around it? maybe sink it into a hole and aoe blast things with impunity .. this may be a bit op idk haven't really tried it =P

probably already known for a long time.. i had a wall with a claymore behind and its barrel just rolled over the hill like it was nothing and stupid speed XD
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ive noticed a strange bug with heavy jj units that sometimes if they land on a unit both units instantly die...i once killed a full hp goli with a jack jump on it,but i have lost sumos to this more often.

On topic,i dont think you changed anything,because the rover meta or ANY meta is based on the ENTIRE meta and how the rover fits in.

IMO this is you starting to understand the game...unit interactions...what can beat what...why is x better than y in certian circumstances etc...

My advice? play 1v1 and you will understand the meta very fast by getting rekt
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2 years ago
Smokey it's not a bug. It's a way of using a unit for a purpose that it's not intended for. ;)
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2 years ago
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ive noticed a strange bug with heavy jj units that sometimes if they land on a unit both units instantly die...i once killed a full hp goli with a jack jump on it,but i have lost sumos to this more often.


Ya I noticed that too, a Jugglenaut jumped on my half dead crab once, and we both died, it was hilarious. At least my crab made cost.
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