Black dawns

In later game they are not very cost effective, though I always think they are better than machine gun gunship - I never use that so I forgot its name.

Just a heavy AA bot/tank can deal with, especially the flaktank it have AoE.

Beside, you can put same amount of metal on Rapiers to get all enemy.

Stop it already. Please. Every day you call another unit op. Let's just nerf every friggin unit at once.

Black Dawn was called op a year ago. People always rushed it, then suddenly stopped and found another 'op unit'. That's a cycle, just a phase, so calm down!!!!!

Please do.

I was pretty sure a Razors Kiss with builder support could fight one off. Try to get one player to start planes for larger games.

It works on smaller maps where planes barely have room to manuever too. 1 razor kiss cant kill a black dawn (it takes like 30 sec for a razor to kill a black dawn) before your com is dead (which takes only 1-3 salvo's). So you end up with no com...
Besides if he actualy uses the black dawn as a hit and run unit its pretty much invulnerable to 1 razor kiss. It just goes in releases its rockets then goes back and you got like 5 sec to kill it and its always defended by aa. Maybe a range nerf so it cant hit and run that easily anymore would fix that.

Rick, you shall detect the blackdawn first and let commander build missile tower to protect itself. and yeah, if they insist to kill commander with 2 blackdawns at very begining, it will probably sucess.

BD have 2900 hp, 2 shot getting a commander.

However, this is a team game. It meant to join units to get opponents weakness. Like 2 player take down 1. Only 1 blackdawn could only fulfill one mission to attack, but not defend, see how much metal you passed on it - 900M =10 glavies + vairous other units.

a radar plane could find blackdawn instantly and kill it with fighters.
yeah, but how the blackdawn know where you are and find your commander?

Might be interested in some data:
Min players 6, min teams 2, ZK version 0.8.x.
Unit stats for 356 games:
Used in 89 games; Cost damaged/lost 0,78;
List of top dmg. Left: dmg dealt, Right: dmg taken.


Recommended counters by efficiency:
MOBILE
Tarantula - AA Spider
Flail - AA Hover
Copperhead - Flak Tank
Jethro - AA Bot
Rapier - Skirmisher, AA Gunship
STATIC
Cobra - AA Flak Gun
Hacksaw - Long Range AA Missile Battery
Razor's Kiss - Hardened AA Laser (maybe microable - close when BD fires, open when BD reloads)
Stinger - High-Energy Laser Tower
Defender - Light Missile Tower

I was expecting Hacksaws to be efficient against hit and run units.

Funfact:
Krow has higher efficiency than any other mobile unit. Its stats were changed often, so this information is unreliable.

It means Black Dawns deal 494,26 times the cost-damage that Jacks deal against Black Dawns. ("cost-damage" meaning hp/cost)
So if BDs dealt 70907 damage to Jacks (5k hp @ 650 metal cost) they damaged ~9200 metal worth of Jacks. ponder If my maths don't fail that would mean Jacks dealt exactly 60 damage to a Black Dawn.. which can't be true since Jacks deal 300 damage per hit. Maybe the Black Dawn was already down to 60hp? Pff. *shrug*