Nuuuuu! ORF wad are you doing!

Every 1v1 I remember playing on this map was a horrible and mostly unfun stomp, one way or the other - simply because one player (mostly me IIRC) abused the nature of the map more and simply out-ecoed.

I would want to see Deserted Gully unfeatured in 1v1 before this (that map is just silly) but I'd not weep for either. Eye of Horus, Comet Catcher, Bandit Plains are almost as big (or bigger!) but feel much better suited to 1v1 play.

Dunno, I've had some quite fun games here. I love map diversity in ZK and large high eco maps like this one definitely bring something different to the table compared to a regular, average sized map like Titan Duel.

It's relatively pleasant to look at as well.

If a map is skipped most of the time it comes up in a 1v1 lobby, and (to make up a number) 80% of the games on it are ridiculous and unfun, is it worth keeping for the sake of the remaining 20%?

Aquanim

quote: If a map is skipped most of the time it comes up in a 1v1 lobby

Is it? The 1v1 map pool is stuffed with low quality maps that often get !map voted away, but I never considered this to be one of them. It looks great, in my opinion also plays very well and is relatively different from most other maps.

Frankly if it were up to me I'd get rid of at least half the maps in the 1v1 pool if not more. If somebody wants to play on ugly or low quality maps they might as well as choose them manually instead of getting them shoved in people's faces all the time.

Games like Starcraft have official 1v1 map pools with less than 10 maps at a time, not sure why Zero-K needs to prioritize quantity over quality when it comes to featured or tagged maps.

Edit: there are 63 "official" maps with the 1v1 tag. This is WAY too much. No wonder the average quality of those maps is not high.

This is definitely a team map, this may be a 1v1 map, but I was quite surprised when it showed up in the rotation a few months ago (I noticed it right after the first NOTA tournament I commentated, this being one of the more frequently played maps there).

Most games I've seen on this map were just about showing how overpowered hovers are but I think it has potential for 1v1. Kbots would be used as a start fac most of the time but a tank/lveh switch is viable. The mex positioning could promote porc but I don't think we can know until it's played more.

I assume you mean this The ramps aren't super clear, but they are visibly different.

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quote: The ramps aren't super clear

Exactly. That they are technically different to the surrounding area is not relevant. Pathing should be super clear. I was arguing against this map being in the featured 1v1 pool ages ago. I think some people liked the map so I didn't take any action at the time.

aeonios could you clarify? Those ramps make for nice raiding opportunities for all facs to keep the game interesting, but the hills still assure an advantage for bots in that area. IMO it plays a lot more diverse than CCR because it's not quite as easy to just expand everywhere.

I agree that it should be much clearer to see where vehicles can and can't go. The map being too hard sounds wrong, a map shouldn't deduct from the game's complexity.