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Jumping vs All-terrain - which is better?

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9/7/2015 9:21:46 PMSkasi before revert after revert
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1 Umm can jumpies really jump into water? I thought impassable terrain was blocked. 1 Umm can jumpies really jump into water? I thought impassable terrain was blocked.
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3 And from what I know spiders can not traverse all terrain. [url=https://github.com/ZeroK-RTS/Zero-K/blob/33f993f9a25cbdaf5624a1309a8ff1ed7639b540/gamedata/movedefs.lua#L90]Allterrain maxslope is 70[/url], so a slope above 70° will not be pathable. Iirc FoogleGrog or some other dev once said that this was to give mappers a chance to create spider-impathable terrain. 3 And from what I know spiders can not traverse all terrain. [url=https://github.com/ZeroK-RTS/Zero-K/blob/33f993f9a25cbdaf5624a1309a8ff1ed7639b540/gamedata/movedefs.lua#L90]Allterrain maxslope is 70[/url], so a slope above 70° will not be pathable. Iirc FoogleGrog or some other dev once said that this was to give mappers a chance to create spider-impathable terrain.
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5 Beside that you forgot two other strengths of all-terrain:
6 Cloaked spiders on cliffs are extreeeemely hard to spot. Uncloaked spiders on cliffs can be very hard to engage from high ground. Example for both strenghts: Ticks, Spies or Fleas on Ravaged. Just have to somehow deal with the awful pathing on cliffs.