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I think water balance should be open season

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4/10/2016 8:36:18 AMLVrankSenaven before revert after revert
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1 Shredders is OP vs slow moving targets like gunships ( krow, brawler, rapier) but vs planes its innacurate nad perform poor except vs slow diving ravens who can be killed vene by scorcers and no aa stuff. . Its hard to balance. 1 Shredders is OP vs slow moving targets like gunships ( krow, brawler, rapier) but vs planes its innacurate nad perform poor except vs slow diving ravens who can be killed even by scorcers and no aa stuff. . Its hard to balance.
2 Amphs need artilery for sure. 2 Amphs need artilery for sure.
3 Not just porcing is problem, but sight. Large problem is sonar plane critical dependency, sea sonar is too vulnarable to arthy and its not mobile. Flying sonar is too easy kill with aa. I cant kill with arthy what i cant see and most porcy sea games for me is lost no becasue porc but sonar problems. Ships can easy deal with porc. They have powerfull arthy and sub sniper. I think sonar should be underwater or special mobile unit is needed on water as well. 3 Not just porcing is problem, but sight. Large problem is sonar plane critical dependency, sea sonar is too vulnarable to arthy and its not mobile. Flying sonar is too easy kill with aa. I cant kill with arthy what i cant see and most porcy sea games for me is lost not becasue porc but sonar problems. Ships easy deal with porc. They have powerfull arthy and sub sniper. I think sonar should be underwater or special mobile unit is needed on water as well.
4 If clymore will be nerfed then hovers need another option vs underwater. They cant counter sub and scallop balls withouth clymore. 4 If clymore will be nerfed then hovers need another option vs underwater. They cant counter sub and scallop balls withouth clymore.
5 Only solid facoty on sea who weorks overall well is ships. Amphs lack arthy but they are powerfull in masses, hovers is just glass units who have problems with porc and subs ( because ypu need be very good player to use clymore and stay alive) while penetrator is horribly long reload range even with it ultra heavy attack. Gunships is easy killed by shredders and other sea aa porc. Planes raven suck at ship aa and when appears static aa then they are useless for most game. 5 Only solid facoty on sea who weorks overall well is ships. Amphs lack arthy but they are powerfull in masses, hovers is just glass units who have problems with porc and subs ( because you need be very good player to use clymore and stay alive) while penetrator is horribly long reload range even with it ultra heavy attack. Gunships is easy killed by shredders and other sea aa porc. Planes raven suck at ship aa and when appears static aa then they are useless for most game.
6 Sea battle problem is that they in later game tend become just large range excanges not intense battle like serpents vs serpents where appears porc who you cant see without sonar planes evenb if you have arthy. 6 Sea battle problem is that they in later game tend become just large range excanges not intense battle like serpents vs serpents where appears porc who you cant see without sonar planes evenb if you have arthy.
7 Also levitian is one of most useless sea unit as straider. Only fetishists use it.
7 I don't speak about 1vs1 sea battle. Only for team games. 8 I don't speak about 1vs1 sea battle. Only for team games.
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