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[quote]Automated conversation probably destroys conversation due to psychology.[/quote]
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[quote]Automated conversation probably destroys conversation due to psychology.[/quote]
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Destroys conversation due to psychology? What?
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Destroys conversation due to psychology? What?
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It actually [u]PROMOTES[/u] better behavior through peer pressure (in the form of Reciprocity). Even if it is automated, it will start a trend which is easy to follow (say glhf at game start) which if left to it's own devices will start circulating as a "ritual" of sorts. Even if it's "insincere", it will still pressure others to start doing it, if others join in. Let's look at other cultural phenomena that go on in ZK:
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It actually [u]PROMOTES[/u] better behavior through peer pressure (in the form of Reciprocity). Even if it is automated, it will start a trend which is easy to follow (say glhf at game start) which if left to it's own devices will start circulating as a "ritual" of sorts. Even if it's "insincere", it will still pressure others to start doing it, if others join in. Let's look at other cultural phenomena that go on in ZK:
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- Lobster "spam"
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- Lobster "spam"
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* Easy to follow
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* Easy to follow
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* Critical mass doing it (Pressure to join in the "in-crowd" is present.)
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* Critical mass doing it (Pressure to join in the "in-crowd" is present.)
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- !resign on game start
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- !resign on game start
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* Easy to follow
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* Easy to follow
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* Sub-culture group does it (Self-identified "trolls")
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* Sub-culture group does it (Self-identified "trolls")
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- glhf
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- glhf
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* Easy to follow
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* Easy to follow
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* Nobody does it (citing reasons such as "not enough time", etc.)
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* Nobody does it (citing reasons such as "not enough time", etc.)
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- Shit talk
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- Shit talk
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* Easy to follow
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* Easy to follow
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* Everyone does it to some degree.
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* Everyone does it to some degree.
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* Note: It's been established what is "acceptable"
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* Note: It's been established what is "acceptable"
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Notice a pattern here? All these trends are EASY TO FOLLOW.
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Notice a pattern here? All these trends are EASY TO FOLLOW.
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How behavior works in a group (Zero-K users) environment: As newbies join into community, they look into who's the doing what. If a huge group of people are doing a specific (calling others lobsters) behavior, they're more likely to perform that behavior. This is called conforming. Admins are expected to act as reinforcement of the "positive" values of the in-group (the largest sub-group, in this case "those who follow the rules"). You've set out a set of social norms on the site, but you lack actual enforcement of positive social norms. Guess where this leads? Hint: League of leggings. Now you're gonna open the flood gates here soon,
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How behavior works in a group (Zero-K users) environment: As newbies join into community, they look into who's the doing what. If a huge group of people are doing a specific (calling others lobsters) behavior, they're more likely to perform that behavior. This is called conforming. Admins are expected to act as reinforcement of the "positive" values of the in-group (the largest sub-group, in this case "those who follow the rules"). You've set out a set of social norms on the site, but you lack actual enforcement of positive social norms. Guess where this leads? Hint: League of leggings. Now you're gonna open the flood gates here soon,
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Don't believe this? Let me ask you this: why do you pay for your groceries (assuming you're an upstanding citizen)? Why do you pronounce words a certain way? Why don't you go around murdering everyone in a fit of anger?
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Don't believe this? Let me ask you this: why do you pay for your groceries (assuming you're an upstanding citizen)? Why do you pronounce words a certain way? Why don't you go around murdering everyone in a fit of anger?
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Unfortunately, if you want a change, you have to either lead and get a first follower in a small group, or be a position of authority and get people on the same page.
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Unfortunately, if you want a change, you have to either lead and get a first follower in a small group, or be a position of authority and get people on the same page.
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Really... if something has been decided is harmful in your secret club house, why haven't you told the rest of us outsiders about it until now?
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Really... if something has been decided is harmful in your secret club house, why haven't you told the rest of us outsiders about it until now?
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[quote]is only meaningful as an interaction if there was a decision behind it.[/quote]
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[quote]is only meaningful as an interaction if there was a decision behind it.[/quote]
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If something appearing to be human tells you good morning, you're extremely likely to say good morning back to it. (Un)Fortunately for us, the internet disallows us to confirm the receiving party is human.
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If something appearing to be human tells you good morning, you're extremely likely to say good morning back to it. (Un)Fortunately for us, the internet disallows us to confirm the receiving party is human.
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[quote]You cannot once and for all want to say "hello" to your neighbour every time you see him, till the end of times. [/quote]
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[quote]You cannot once and for all want to say "hello" to your neighbour every time you see him, till the end of times. [/quote]
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Reciprocity says you will so long as the neighbor says hi to you too. It becomes sort of an "automated" decision.
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Reciprocity says you will so long as the neighbor says hi to you too. It becomes sort of an "automated" decision.
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[quote]It is information which can be directly seen in the game world.[/quote]
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[quote]It is information which can be directly seen in the game world.[/quote]
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It is hard for 90% of people to see everything at once. They tend to be focused on the immediate task at hand. Communicating important low level information and bringing it up is quite critical. Attention is rarely spent observing the whole picture in team games. It's generally focused on the area with the task at hand.
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It is hard for 90% of people to see everything at once. They tend to be focused on the immediate task at hand. Communicating important low level information and bringing it up is quite critical. Attention is rarely spent observing the whole picture in team games. It's generally focused on the area with the task at hand.
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[spoiler]Simple version:
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Because you are told glhf, the first reaction is to return the gesture (in normal individuals). Seeing this as a norm due to others doing it, new comers and followers jump on the good luck wagon and eventually it becomes a social norm. A daily example of this is good morning/evening/afternoon and other hellos and good byes. Interestingly you get the groceries must be paid for from other people as well.[/spoiler]
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Muted and kicked from server for good luck widget