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FWIW, gajop's expectations are unrealistic. We used to say the same shit back in 2008 and even earlier. Spring games will never be up to your "standards". We can get close. Chobby fills in a lot of holes, but us on uber can't even use it yet, and still, the best lobby for us is weblobby.
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FWIW, gajop's expectations are unrealistic. We used to say the same shit back in 2008 and even earlier. Spring games will never be up to your "standards". We can get close. Chobby fills in a lot of holes, but us on uber can't even use it yet, and still, the best lobby for us is weblobby.
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You guys need to temper your expectations. First off, the evo launch wouldn't have gone as badly, except steam decided to feature it on the front page. You had better pray to zeus and the universe that that doesn't happen to ZK. When people tlak about the evo steam launch, there is a lot that they don't know, which, from my perspective is really annoying. I hadn't planned to realease so early, but if you've ever spent time in steam's steamworks interface, you are aware of how primitive and user-unfriendly it is.
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You guys need to temper your expectations. First off, the evo launch wouldn't have gone as badly, except steam decided to feature it on the front page. You had better pray to zeus and the universe that that doesn't happen to ZK. When people tlak about the evo steam launch, there is a lot that they don't know, which, from my perspective is really annoying. I hadn't planned to realease so early, but if you've ever spent time in steam's steamworks interface, you are aware of how primitive and user-unfriendly it is.
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That said, it would NEVER have been the right time to release. If you keep waiting, ZK won't be released on steam for another 5 years or more. If you're trying to make sure that everything is perfect, take a word of advice and stop. Temper your expectations.
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That said, it would NEVER have been the right time to release. If you keep waiting, ZK won't be released on steam for another 5 years or more. If you're trying to make sure that everything is perfect, take a word of advice and stop. Temper your expectations.
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Additionally, the people that you get from steam will by and large not even know what rts is. They will think that it is like a moba, and will be utterly overwhelmed by the game. That isn't because ZK is doing something wrong, it just happens to be the wrong fit for that user. Evo has tons of people that come from steam and simply don't know what RTS is, when they find out, they simply aren't terribly interested (in the genre as a whole).
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Additionally, the people that you get from steam will by and large not even know what rts is. They will think that it is like a moba, and will be utterly overwhelmed by the game. That isn't because ZK is doing something wrong, it just happens to be the wrong fit for that user. Evo has tons of people that come from steam and simply don't know what RTS is, when they find out, they simply aren't terribly interested (in the genre as a whole).
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I agree with gajop that things should be as good as possible on release, but you should take that to mean that they should be good. Not perfect. Perfect will never happen.
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I agree with gajop that things should be as good as possible on release, but you should take that to mean that they should be good. Not perfect. Perfect will never happen.
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Anyway, that wasn't even why I was posting. Apparently we all had the same idea at the same time, because I was in the process of putting evo on itch when gajop informed me of this thread. I've released it and can offer some insights if anyone cares. Nothing groundbreaking. Possibly mildly interesting, but if you have questions I'll try to answer them.
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Anyway, that wasn't even why I was posting. Apparently we all had the same idea at the same time, because I was in the process of putting evo on itch when gajop informed me of this thread. I've released it and can offer some insights if anyone cares. Nothing groundbreaking. Possibly mildly interesting, but if you have questions I'll try to answer them.
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https://forboding-angel.itch.io/evolution-rts
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Zero-K on Itch.io