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The kick command seems to be commonly used by salty players recently. It's seen a lot of use by certain individuals. Rarely, if ever, do these kick votes actually have a stated reason. So what's the purpose of the kick command, if what is being done to warrant a temporary ban from zk (effectively, cuz of 1rc) is not properly communicated nor standardized?
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The kick command seems to be commonly used by salty players recently. It's seen a lot of use by certain individuals. Rarely, if ever, do these kick votes actually have a stated reason. So what's the purpose of the kick command, if what is being done to warrant a temporary ban from zk (effectively, cuz of 1rc) is not properly communicated nor standardized?
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Standardization is required in communities. There needs to be set standards that people can follow and measure perceived grievances against. Since the certain members of this community are neither communicating properly nor laying standards, these kick votes are doing absolutely nothing but removing "undesirable" players from the big game for reasons they themselves do not even know why. How is bad behavior supposed to be rehabilitated if a punishment is neither linked to a defined grievance nor properly communicated to alleged perpetrator?
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Standardization is required in communities. There needs to be set standards that people can follow and measure perceived grievances against. Since the certain members of this community are neither communicating properly nor laying standards, these kick votes are doing absolutely nothing but removing "undesirable" players from the big game for reasons they themselves do not even know why. How is bad behavior supposed to be rehabilitated if a punishment is neither linked to a defined grievance nor properly communicated to alleged perpetrator?
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Sure,
we
can
hide
behind
"removing
griefers"
and
"TKers"
but
the
actual
use
case
for
kicking
those
are
next
to
0
or
when
they
DO
happen
to
get
called,
they
have
near
0
traction
unless
its
particularly
bad.
So
why
is
this
command
allowed
for
random
people
to
just
suddenly
call
random
kick
votes
for
no
communicated
reason?
For
instance,
while
waiting
for
a
game
to
finish,
I
saw
a
kick
vote
for
the
user
Dhrama_khan.
No
reason
was
communicated
for
this
kick.
It
just
was
called.
I
don't
even
know
what
he
was
doing
wrong.
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Sure,
we
can
hide
behind
"removing
griefers"
and
"TKers"
but
the
actual
use
case
for
kicking
those
are
next
to
0
or
when
they
DO
happen
to
get
called,
they
have
near
0
traction
unless
its
particularly
bad.
So
why
is
this
command
allowed
for
random
people
to
just
suddenly
call
random
kick
votes
for
no
communicated
reason?
For
instance,
while
waiting
for
a
game
to
finish,
I
saw
a
kick
vote
for
the
user
Dhrama_khan.
No
reason
was
communicated
for
this
kick.
It
just
was
called.
I
don't
even
know
what
he
was
doing
wrong.
So
what
does
this
communicate
to
the
offender
and
what
does
that
communicate
to
the
innocent?
Nothing.
So
what
is
its
purpose?
To
be
there
"just
in
case"
while
it
is
being
effectively
abused
by
individuals
of
this
community
to
facilitate
their
petty
feuds?
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In addition to that example, we can see a spurious kick vote in @B836236 . This stuff's getting old.
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Honestly kick needs to [b]require[/b] a reason field (probably at least 7 characters) or be removed from autohosts entirely. All welcome should not be a place where we're just kicking people for lulz, blood feuds, minor offenses or abstract things like "playing poorly" (if that's even the reason, who even knows at this point). Since this is effectively a temporary ban from zk multiplayer, it should have a lot stricter requirements (along with severe penalties for misuse) or be outright removed.
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Honestly kick needs to [b]require[/b] a reason field (probably at least 7 characters) or be removed from autohosts entirely. All welcome should not be a place where we're just kicking people for lulz, blood feuds, minor offenses or abstract things like "playing poorly" (if that's even the reason, who even knows at this point). Since this is effectively a temporary ban from zk multiplayer, it should have a lot stricter requirements (along with severe penalties for misuse) or be outright removed.
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Revisiting Kick: What good is it for?