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[q] Here you fail to draw the distinction between "unquestionable" and merely having received a disagreeable answer. The regulation of the big teams rooms has been questioned, answered, and even experimented with on multiple occasions. You keep asking the same question and receiving essentially the same answer. Asking again isn't going to change the answer unless someone comes up with new ideas or the situation changes significantly. [/q]
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[q] Here you fail to draw the distinction between "unquestionable" and merely having received a disagreeable answer. The regulation of the big teams rooms has been questioned, answered, and even experimented with on multiple occasions. You keep asking the same question and receiving essentially the same answer. Asking again isn't going to change the answer unless someone comes up with new ideas or the situation changes significantly. [/q]
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Here
you
fail
to
aknowledge
that
i
have
asked
different
things
over
time,
i
got
your
opinion
about
new
players
and
accept
it
completely.
I
have
experessed
this
multiple
times
already.
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Here
you
fail
to
aknowledge
that
i
have
asked
different
things
over
time,
i
got
your
opinion
about
new
players
the
first
time
(
years
ago)
and
accept
it
completely.
I
have
experessed
this
multiple
times
already.
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[q] In short, this
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[q] In short, this
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quote:
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quote:
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Thats why i suggested having the paladium more often. This would basically leave the AWH untouched and at least offer us some more posibilities to have satisfying games.
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Thats why i suggested having the paladium more often. This would basically leave the AWH untouched and at least offer us some more posibilities to have satisfying games.
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is plain false. The All Welcome room would obviously be impacted by the creation of an exclusive room because the two rooms would compete for players. [/q]
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is plain false. The All Welcome room would obviously be impacted by the creation of an exclusive room because the two rooms would compete for players. [/q]
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1. Not that we didn`t have an "expierienced only" host two times already that got closed because no one played in it.
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1. Not that we didn`t have an "expierienced only" host two times already that got closed because no one played in it.
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2. Note also that i wrote MORE often. I dind`t choose those words arbitrarily.
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2. Note also that i wrote MORE often. I dind`t choose those words arbitrarily.
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[q] The answer to your question is the combination of a few simple facts:
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[q] The answer to your question is the combination of a few simple facts:
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Before you pick apart the minutiae of the five facts I presented, the facts are not making black-and-white claims.
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Before you pick apart the minutiae of the five facts I presented, the facts are not making black-and-white claims.
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Acknowledge and address the five facts above. Find solutions in reference to those facts. [/q]
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Acknowledge and address the five facts above. Find solutions in reference to those facts. [/q]
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That is what i meant with unquestionable. You tell how the world IS, then protect those views from criticism, then demand me to aknowledge them and act according to them.
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That is what i meant with unquestionable. You tell how the world IS, then protect those views from criticism, then demand me to aknowledge them and act according to them.
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I have already done exactly that.
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I have already done exactly that.
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- I have said that recognisng and occasionaly fulfilling the needs of other players COULD create a more welcoming athmosphere for new players, this was recieved as a malicious attempt to "shift blame" on them. "Blaming" and seing "unintentional contribution" is a difference. I also aknoledged that it is unrealistic and unfair to expect new players to communicate or play a certain way.
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- I have said that recognisng and occasionaly fulfilling the needs of other players COULD create a more welcoming athmosphere for new players, this was recieved as a malicious attempt to "shift blame" on them. "Blaming" and seing "unintentional contribution" is a difference. I also aknoledged that it is unrealistic and unfair to expect new players to communicate or play a certain way.
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- The proposal of a mini-tutorial was a try to get a compromise done. This was deemed technically impossible and socially unacceptable.
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- The proposal of a mini-tutorial was a try to get a compromise done. This was deemed technically impossible and socially unacceptable.
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- After that, i was trying to find a solution that leaves the AWH untouched. Your comments above are saying that it is impossible to host other rooms without affecting the AWH to the point of zk dying.
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- After that, i was trying to find a solution that leaves the AWH untouched. Your comments above are saying that it is impossible to host other rooms without affecting the AWH to the point of zk dying.
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[q] A tradeoff must be found. [/q]
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[q] A tradeoff must be found. [/q]
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I don`t know if you are realizing it but i already try to find this tradeoff.
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I don`t know if you are realizing it but i already try to find this tradeoff.
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Like maybe hosting the Paladium 3 times a month instead of 2.
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Like maybe hosting the Paladium 3 times a month instead of 2.
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[q] Simply stating "here are my desires and how to fulfill them" is redundant I know your desires and don't disagree that your proposals would satisfy them (at least temporarily until the proposal kills the community). A tradeoff must be found. [/q]
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[q] Simply stating "here are my desires and how to fulfill them" is redundant I know your desires and don't disagree that your proposals would satisfy them (at least temporarily until the proposal kills the community). A tradeoff must be found. [/q]
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You have already said that those desires are not just mine. I will repeat what i said earlier:
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You have already said that those desires are not just mine. I will repeat what i said earlier:
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[q] If there is a group of people that constantly gets ignored and declared unimportant by you, while you neither provide alternatives nor showing the will to alter your position even the slightest, then you are effectively telling them to leave the game. This is neither fair nor productive or useful. [/q]
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[q] If there is a group of people that constantly gets ignored and declared unimportant by you, while you neither provide alternatives nor showing the will to alter your position even the slightest, then you are effectively telling them to leave the game. This is neither fair nor productive or useful. [/q]
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At this point i don't know what to say more. I cannot do more than to think about how to make the games more satisfying for many players and making proposals. The game doesn`t JUST consist of new players. Yes, we got a lot more players, but we are also consistently losing players because they feel their needs being dismissed and ridiculed. I can only beg you to show insight into that and that this ALSO hurts the community and your with it your goal of having a florishing game that makes people happy to participate. It´s your turn now.
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At this point i don't know what to say more. I cannot do more than to think about how to make the games more satisfying for many players and making proposals. The game doesn`t JUST consist of new players. Yes, we got a lot more players, but we are also consistently losing players because they feel their needs being dismissed and ridiculed. I can only beg you to show insight into that and that this ALSO hurts the community and your with it your goal of having a florishing game that makes people happy to participate. It´s your turn now.
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I guess i will stop making those long posts. They feel like a giant waste of time. I will limit myself to just point out when we get more drama and people snapping or leaving because of this.
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I guess i will stop making those long posts. They feel like a giant waste of time. I will limit myself to just point out when we get more drama and people snapping or leaving because of this.
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Further escalation of the clusterfuck-tensions