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[q]When people leave FFA they normally don't ruin it for others totally. However, when people make unit-launchers, starlight rushes etc. in team games they really sink the team, especially when 2 or more do it. That is totally allowed in ZeroK. [/q]
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[q]When people leave FFA they normally don't ruin it for others totally. However, when people make unit-launchers, starlight rushes etc. in team games they really sink the team, especially when 2 or more do it. That is totally allowed in ZeroK. [/q]
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This smacks of trying any argument just to see what sticks. Both are ridiculous.
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This smacks of trying any argument just to see what sticks. Both are ridiculous.
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* Multiple people are telling you that leaving in the way that you do [i]is[/i] ruining FFA for them. When a bunch of people are telling you something about how you make them feel then you can't just say "nah, they're wrong about how they feel". The style of FFA you prefer may not be ruined by leavers, but not everyone enjoys the same style of FFA.
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* Multiple people are telling you that leaving in the way that you do [i]is[/i] ruining FFA for them. When a bunch of people are telling you something about how you make them feel then you can't just say "nah, they're wrong about how they feel". The style of FFA you prefer may not be ruined by leavers, but not everyone enjoys the same style of FFA.
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* Pointing out that there are ways to grief other game modes doesn't help your case that you are not griefing FFA.
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* Pointing out that there are ways to grief other game modes doesn't help your case that you are not griefing FFA.
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[q]I have health issues and when I gtg, I gtg. There are some things for me which are simply not optional. Sometimes I am close to the end, and sometimes (like last night, where I mentioned I gtg at game start) I am not that close to the end of a game. Like I said, I set my computer to auto-shut-down. I have a real physical life and I don't have the option to stay sometimes, it just happens. [/q]
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[q]I have health issues and when I gtg, I gtg. There are some things for me which are simply not optional. Sometimes I am close to the end, and sometimes (like last night, where I mentioned I gtg at game start) I am not that close to the end of a game. Like I said, I set my computer to auto-shut-down. I have a real physical life and I don't have the option to stay sometimes, it just happens. [/q]
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In the end this is your responsibility. FFA is like many other social activities in that it pisses people off if you leave midway through. ZK is lenient here because life happens and we can afford to be with the size of the community. It becomes a problem when it becomes a pattern. You control whether you start a game or not, and since you have a definite leaving time, it should be trivial for you to predict whether you will leave midway through.
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In the end this is your responsibility. FFA is like many other social activities in that it pisses people off if you leave midway through. ZK is lenient here because life happens and we can afford to be with the size of the community. It becomes a problem when it becomes a pattern. You control whether you start a game or not, and since you have a definite leaving time, it should be trivial for you to predict whether you will leave midway through.
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Big games (many MOBAS) have automated penalties for leaving that would ban you without caring why it was you left.
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Big games (many MOBAS) have automated penalties for leaving that would ban you without caring why it was you left.
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[q]Like I have said several times now, I really think admins should not claim other people are cheating, as they are subject to privileged information, and spreading rumors about people as an admin devalues that position and the respect it deserves.
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[q]Like I have said several times now, I really think admins should not claim other people are cheating, as they are subject to privileged information, and spreading rumors about people as an admin devalues that position and the respect it deserves.
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That's what I came to say.
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That's what I came to say.
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Clearly Anir has nothing on me or I would have been banned already. [/q]
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Clearly Anir has nothing on me or I would have been banned already. [/q]
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I don't know if you realise this, but these statements imply that you think admins should do all this discussion behind closed doors and then act with barely a warning. I also note that there is a big difference between spreading rumors and coming to a public thread armed with evidence.
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I don't know if you realise this, but these statements imply that you think admins should do all this discussion behind closed doors and then act with barely a warning. I also note that there is a big difference between spreading rumors and coming to a public thread armed with evidence.
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You have also entirely avoided responding to what I said about @B1114695, which goes beyond merely leaving early.
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You have also entirely avoided responding to what I said about @B1114695, which goes beyond merely leaving early.
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Offtopic, but in the interest of transparency:
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Offtopic, but in the interest of transparency:
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[spoiler]@Godde
posted
"FFAs
on
some
maps
are
pretty
quick
Shaman.
"
which
to
me
is
clearly
just
a
minimal-effort
poke
at
edge
cases
to
see
who
will
bite
and
follow
him
into
a
pointless
argument.
Any
charitable
reading
of
the
discussion
around
not
starting
a
FFA
when
you
expect
to
need
to
leave
before
it
ends
takes
map
variation
into
account.
It
goes
without
saying
that
you
don't
need
to
set
aside
90
minutes
for
a
game
of
Duck.
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[spoiler]@Godde
posted
"FFAs
on
some
maps
are
pretty
quick
Shaman.
"
which
to
me
is
clearly
just
a
minimal-effort
poke
at
edge
cases
to
see
who
will
bite
and
follow
him
into
a
pointless
argument.
Any
charitable
reading
of
the
discussion
around
leaving
FFA
midway
already
takes
map
variation
into
account.
It
goes
without
saying
that
you
don't
need
to
set
aside
90
minutes
for
a
game
of
Duck.
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The post was deleted with the following warning issued:
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The post was deleted with the following warning issued:
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WARNING: The moderation team is reaffirming http://zero-k.info/Forum/Post/239709#239709 and as such have deleted your recent post "helpfully" pointing out that sometimes FFAs are short. We believe your main purpose in that thread is to draw people into offtopic arguments, which is particularly problematic given the seriousness of the threads main topic. This is your final warning.
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WARNING: The moderation team is reaffirming http://zero-k.info/Forum/Post/239709#239709 and as such have deleted your recent post "helpfully" pointing out that sometimes FFAs are short. We believe your main purpose in that thread is to draw people into offtopic arguments, which is particularly problematic given the seriousness of the threads main topic. This is your final warning.
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Anyone wishing to discuss this must at least do so in another thread.
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Anyone wishing to discuss this must at least do so in another thread.
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[/spoiler]
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Anir abusing his admin status, again