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Further to the conversation @JohnHunter, @swappan and myself were having in the spec chat of this game:
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Further to the conversation @JohnHunter, @swappan and myself were having in the spec chat of this game:
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People are allowed to play in team games in ways that do not necessarily offer the best possible chances of success in the current game. If this were not true, then nobody would get to play their first planes game, and so nobody would learn how to play planes. "Play for the mutual success of the whole team" does not mean "play in the most optimal way you know how", it means "make a reasonably good-faith effort".
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People are allowed to play in team games in ways that do not necessarily offer the best possible chances of success in the current game. If this were not true, then nobody would get to play their first planes game, and so nobody would learn how to play planes. "Play for the mutual success of the whole team" does not mean "play in the most optimal way you know how", it means "make a reasonably good-faith effort".
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Similarly in FFA I do not think we should necessarily expect people to play in the most optimal way they know how, only to make a reasonably good-faith effort.
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Similarly in FFA I do not think we should necessarily expect people to play in the most optimal way they know how, only to make a reasonably good-faith effort.
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It
is
far
from
clear
to
me
that
"Faffing
about
and
trying
to
arbitrarily
kingmake
on
the
far
side
of
the
map
with
Revenants
so
much
that
your
base
gets
rolled
by
a
neighbour
who
is
considerably
lower
rated
than
you"
qualifies
as
a
reasonably
good
faith
effort.
But
I
do
not
think
the
fact
that
@swappan
explicitly
said
they
knew
this
play
not
to
be
optimal,
on
its
own,
violates
the
Code
of
Conduct.
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It
is
far
from
clear
to
me
that
"Faffing
about
and
trying
to
arbitrarily
kingmake
on
the
far
side
of
the
map
with
Revenants
so
much
that
your
base
gets
swiftly
rolled
by
a
neighbour
who
is
lower
rated
than
you"
qualifies
as
a
reasonably
good
faith
effort.
But
I
do
not
think
the
fact
that
@swappan
explicitly
said
they
knew
this
play
not
to
be
optimal,
on
its
own,
violates
the
Code
of
Conduct.
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(On a related note, I am not enthusiastic about myself, any other admin, or even the admins as a group being regularly called upon to determine what qualifies as sufficiently bad-faith play in a FFA to warrant modaction. It is potentially an extremely subjective decision. If it is clear that the community requires a judgement to be made, as it was in the RedEagle business a few months back, then we can and will make such a judgement. If it is not clear that we must make a judgement for the good of the community I expect we typically will choose not to.)
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(On a related note, I am not enthusiastic about myself, any other admin, or even the admins as a group being regularly called upon to determine what qualifies as sufficiently bad-faith play in a FFA to warrant modaction. It is potentially an extremely subjective decision. If it is clear that the community requires a judgement to be made, as it was in the RedEagle business a few months back, then we can and will make such a judgement. If it is not clear that we must make a judgement for the good of the community I expect we typically will choose not to.)
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