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Tank currently struggles hard against Hovers. Tank has been in a poor spot balance-wise ever since Emissary got nerfed, completely lacking in cheap raiders or a skirm making its game completely fall apart if its uber-raider (Kodachi) fails.
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Tank currently struggles hard against Hovers. Tank has been in a poor spot balance-wise ever since Emissary got nerfed, completely lacking in cheap raiders or a skirm making its game completely fall apart if its uber-raider (Kodachi) fails.
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I
would
recommend
hiding
Emissaries
next
to
stingers.
Gradually
kill
those
scalpels
from
range,
once
you've
pushed
them
back
then
build
another
Stinger
closer.
Maintain
an
army
to
deter
them
attacking
the
Stinger
(
if
they
push
the
stinger
then
push
back)
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I
would
recommend
hiding
Emissaries
next
to
stingers.
Gradually
kill
those
scalpels
from
range,
once
you've
pushed
them
back
then
build
another
Stinger
closer.
Maintain
an
army
to
deter
them
attacking
the
Stinger
(
if
they
push
the
stinger
then
push
back)
.
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At
your
level
a
Cyclops
will
also
work
to
kill
Scalpels.
Use
the
Cyclops
to
kill
a
couple
then
pull
it
back
for
repairs.
Have
some
Kodachis
or
Ogres
on
hand
to
intercept
if
they
try
and
rush
down
your
Cyclops
with
the
Scalpels.
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At
your
level
a
Cyclops
will
also
work
to
kill
Scalpels.
Use
the
Cyclops
to
kill
a
couple
then
pull
it
back
for
repairs.
Have
some
Kodachis
or
Ogres
on
hand
to
intercept
if
they
try
and
rush
down
your
Cyclops
with
the
Scalpels.
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Lotus
also
works
well
against
both
moderators
and
Scalpel,
slowing
them
down
with
its
hp
and
doing
damage.
A
Lotus
forest
can
absolutely
brutalize
a
moderator/scalpel
swarm
if
your
opponent
doesn't
micro
well
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Lotus
also
works
well
against
both
moderators
and
Scalpel,
slowing
them
down
with
its
hp
and
doing
damage.
A
Lotus
forest
can
absolutely
brutalize
a
moderator/scalpel
swarm
if
your
opponent
doesn't
micro
well
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There's
also
just
deciding
to
spend
the
700
on
another
factory
and
getting
a
cloakbot
factory
for
the
Glaives
and
the
Iris
area
cloaker
(
sneaking
a
bunch
of
Ogres
up
to
the
Skirmisher
ball
works
very
well
indeed!)
.
You
can
also
just
make
a
static
area
cloaker
and
morph
it
into
a
walking
one.
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There's
also
just
deciding
to
spend
the
700
on
another
factory
and
getting
a
cloakbot
factory
for
the
Glaives
and
the
Iris
area
cloaker
(
sneaking
a
bunch
of
Ogres
up
to
the
Skirmisher
ball
works
very
well
indeed!)
.
You
can
also
just
make
a
static
area
cloaker
and
morph
it
into
a
walking
one.
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A similar strategy should work against Moderators as against Scalpel: Either pure Kodachi swarms (hoping to overwhelm whatever riot force they have or just avoid the skirm+riot ball and hit the enemy base) or Emissary in a Stinger nest or a Cyclops slowly killing them all or a factory switch or an area cloaker on Ogres.
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A similar strategy should work against Moderators as against Scalpel: Either pure Kodachi swarms (hoping to overwhelm whatever riot force they have or just avoid the skirm+riot ball and hit the enemy base) or Emissary in a Stinger nest or a Cyclops slowly killing them all or a factory switch or an area cloaker on Ogres.
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Contrary to @Amnykon, I would NOT recommend Ogres. They are not a cost effective solution (seen in both real games and tested in sandbox) and will lose cost for cost.
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Contrary to @Amnykon, I would NOT recommend Ogres. They are not a cost effective solution (seen in both real games and tested in sandbox) and will lose cost for cost.
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If you are a micro god and can throw in a Welder/Minotaur to tank shots just before the Ogres come in to range of the Scalpels it *may* trade evenly, but if you get the timing even slightly wrong it'll backfire horribly with the Scalpels turning early and you'll lose all your Ogres without killing a single Scalpel.
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If you are a micro god and can throw in a Welder/Minotaur to tank shots just before the Ogres come in to range of the Scalpels it *may* trade evenly, but if you get the timing even slightly wrong it'll backfire horribly with the Scalpels turning early and you'll lose all your Ogres without killing a single Scalpel.
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Kodachis work much better against Scalpels, though even pure Kodachi will only trade evenly with a Scalpel+Bolas ball.
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Kodachis work much better against Scalpels, though even pure Kodachi will only trade evenly with a Scalpel+Bolas ball.
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Contra @GoogleFrog I would also not recommend sending Minotaurs against either Moderator or Scalpel (though they are good against turrets, which may have been what he means). It tends to die after killing one or never get in range to kill one at all (if you retreat early). Instead, send a single Minotaur with a retreat percentage (and retreat zone) set (or, instead, a welder or two) slightly before a big Kodachi swarm (as many Kodachis as the enemy has skirmishers should work).
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Contra @GoogleFrog I would also not recommend sending Minotaurs against either Moderator or Scalpel (though they are good against turrets, which may have been what he means). It tends to die after killing one or never get in range to kill one at all (if you retreat early). Instead, send a single Minotaur with a retreat percentage (and retreat zone) set (or, instead, a welder or two) slightly before a big Kodachi swarm (as many Kodachis as the enemy has skirmishers should work).
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Note that if you have too few Kodachis and/or the enemy has some decent rioting (Bolas or Mace or somesuch) then you could just lose everything for no gain, so this is risky... Hence me not including it in my recommended strategies above.
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Note that if you have too few Kodachis and/or the enemy has some decent rioting (Bolas or Mace or somesuch) then you could just lose everything for no gain, so this is risky... Hence me not including it in my recommended strategies above.
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