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5/27/2022 1:32:19 AMAUrankAdminAquanim before revert after revert
5/27/2022 1:31:55 AMAUrankAdminAquanim before revert after revert
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1 As when this has been previously discussed: 1 As when this has been previously discussed:
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3 * Including FFA in the casual games rating was shown to increase the quality of the ratings (as measured by predictive power as to who will win games) last time somebody ran the numbers to investigate this. This was some time ago now, I suppose it is possible this has changed based on current FFA habits. 3 * Including FFA in the casual games rating was shown to increase the quality of the ratings (as measured by predictive power as to who will win games) last time somebody ran the numbers to investigate this. This was some time ago now, I suppose it is possible this has changed based on current FFA habits.
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5 * There are other reasonable arguments as to why FFA games should not affect casual rating. For instance, it removes motivation to unreasonably collude with other players, or to deliberately throw games, in order to manipulate rating. 5 * There are other reasonable arguments as to why FFA games should not affect casual rating. For instance, it removes motivation to unreasonably collude with other players, or to deliberately throw games, in order to manipulate rating.
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7 * Actually doing anything about this requires server changes, and also potentially database edits if the change is to be made retroactive. This will require buy-in from infra devs who have not had much to say on the topic recently. 7 * Actually doing anything about this requires server changes, and also potentially database edits if the change is to be made retroactive. This will require buy-in and time from infra devs who have not had much to say on the topic recently. So I would not hold my breath.
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9 [quote]The winner of the match gets a total of 75% of the entire ELO from all players 9 [quote]The winner of the match gets a total of 75% of the entire ELO from all players
10 The second last surviving player gets 15% 10 The second last surviving player gets 15%
11 ...[/quote] 11 ...[/quote]
12 I do not think that the FFA game mode will be improved by a bunch of negotiations on the subject of "in which order will the winning player destroy everybody else", or all the losing players trying to hide cloaked stuff in corners in order to be one of the last people standing. Anything other than "winner take all" seems deeply suspect to me on that basis. 12 I do not think that the FFA game mode will be improved by a bunch of negotiations on the subject of "in which order will the winning player destroy everybody else", or all the losing players trying to hide cloaked stuff in corners in order to be one of the last people standing. Anything other than "winner take all" seems deeply suspect to me on that basis.