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Stacking in Teams and FFA

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7/15/2022 12:54:21 PMTHrankPootis before revert after revert
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2 The amount of imbalance in teams and pre-teaming in FFA is, from what I've observed, very high as of late. This has been a recurring issue for some time now in Zero-k, but as of writing this post, the scale has escalated to the point it ruins the entire elo system as a whole. While there is nothing wrong with people in a party or the same clan wanting to play in the same team, stacking a bunch of veterans in one team in order to "farm" elo from random players isn't desirable either. Take http://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/1407565? and http://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/1407563 for instance, the influence of putting players of the same clan/party into one team completely destroyed the balance, and the games ended up as a complete stomp. Repetition of this in the long run will result in players who are unfortunate enough to run into stacked parties to become underranked, and players who randomed get shuffled into the stacked party's team gaining free elo, which will cause further issues for the balancer the longer it goes on. Despite how bad this sounds, it isn't the worst, most terrible elo act of elo manipulation ongoing in Zero-k. 1 The amount of imbalance in teams and pre-teaming in FFA is, from what I've observed, very high as of late. This has been a recurring issue for some time now in Zero-k, but as of writing this post, the scale has escalated to the point it ruins the entire elo system as a whole. While there is nothing wrong with people in a party or the same clan wanting to play in the same team, stacking a bunch of veterans in one team in order to "farm" elo from random players isn't desirable either. Take http://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/1407565? and http://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/1407563 for instance, the influence of putting players of the same clan/party into one team completely destroyed the balance, and the games ended up as a complete stomp. Repetition of this in the long run will result in players who are unfortunate enough to run into stacked parties to become underranked, and players who randomed get shuffled into the stacked party's team gaining free elo, which will cause further issues for the balancer the longer it goes on. Despite how bad this sounds, it isn't the worst, most terrible elo act of elo manipulation ongoing in Zero-k.
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4 The next issue in line to this is pre-teaming in ffa, which, as you may or may not know, is a mode that gives the biggest push in casual elo, on a much more scale significant even when compared to 1v1s. For a while now, some players whose name I need not mention are found pre-teaming and essentially manipulating elo in ffa, placing their casual elo wherever they wish, whether it be higher or lower on the ladder, in a short span of time. While it is true that one shouldn't really have expectation when they enter a FFA room, and that it should be chaotic, using FFA to greatly influence the elo system is plain disgusting on top of making those FFA games less enjoyable for others who partake in it. The consequence of this will really start to show once these players return to the lobster pot, where the balancer will place them according to their casual elo. While I'm not here to address how game ruining pre-teaming in FFA is, I'm certain that @hedkeaf will be able to elaborate on the details in that regard. 3 The next issue in line to this is pre-teaming in ffa, which, as you may or may not know, is a mode that gives the biggest push in casual elo, on a much more scale significant even when compared to 1v1s. For a while now, some players whose name I need not mention are found pre-teaming and essentially manipulating elo in ffa, placing their casual elo wherever they wish, whether it be higher or lower on the ladder, in a short span of time. While it is true that one shouldn't really have expectation when they enter a FFA room, and that it should be chaotic, using FFA to greatly influence the elo system is plain disgusting on top of making those FFA games less enjoyable for others who partake in it. The consequence of this will really start to show once these players return to the lobster pot, where the balancer will place them according to their casual elo. While I'm not here to address how game ruining pre-teaming in FFA is, I'm certain that @hedkeaf will be able to elaborate on the details in that regard.
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6 With that said, I'm a firm believer that as long as the Zero-k community behave reasonably aka follow the code of conduct and the troublesome players such as @Jadem stop taking virulent actions ( which will promote more toxicity, if anything) , the community and the playerbase will gradually heal, grow, and eventually reach the amount where the balancer will become much more accurate thanks to a larger sample size. 5 With that said, I'm a firm believer that as long as the Zero-k community behave reasonably aka follow the code of conduct and the troublesome players stop taking virulent actions ( which will promote more toxicity, if anything) , the community and the playerbase will gradually heal, grow, and eventually reach the amount where the balancer will become much more accurate thanks to a larger sample size.