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[quote]So far it's been communicated to us (over the course of our discourse on the forum/discord/lobby) that people who make "pointless reports" or however the wording was (it's been a while, admittedly) generally don't have their reports looked into. See the discussion with FIrankKapy (was it?) recently[/quote]
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[quote]So far it's been communicated to us (over the course of our discourse on the forum/discord/lobby) that people who make "pointless reports" or however the wording was (it's been a while, admittedly) generally don't have their reports looked into. See the discussion with FIrankKapy (was it?) recently[/quote]
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If we are thinking of the same conversation here, that was in the context of one-word reports (and other reports that look like shitposts), which we get quite a few of, and very few of them turn out (as best we can tell) to have anything substantive behind them.
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If we are thinking of the same conversation here, that was in the context of one-word reports (and other reports that look like shitposts), which we get quite a few of, and very few of them turn out (as best we can tell) to have anything substantive behind them.
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(Barring the occasional mistake or oversight,) we investigate every report which contains enough information to tell us what, where and when we are meant to look, no matter who sent it. If the report is lacking those details, then chasing the report down is a LOT more work and is far more likely to be a waste of our time. At that point some judgment of "is this reporter likely to be wasting my time or not" does come into play.
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(Barring the occasional mistake or oversight,) we investigate every report which contains enough information to tell us what, where and when we are meant to look, no matter who sent it. If the report is lacking those details, then chasing the report down is a LOT more work and is far more likely to be a waste of our time. At that point some judgment of "is this reporter likely to be wasting my time or not" does come into play.
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Making reports of events which you have accurately represented, but which the admins decide does not rise to the level of being modactionable, does not make us think that you have wasted our time. Sending us on a wild goose chase looking for an event that didn't actually happen is more of a problem.
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[quote]When users report something, they need some feedback mechanism that their reports are effective.[/quote]
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[quote]When users report something, they need some feedback mechanism that their reports are effective.[/quote]
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If an individual sends in reports about another user that they find distasteful, but nobody else cares about the second user's behaviour, then their reports may not be (and sometimes *should* not be) effective.
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If an individual sends in reports about another user that they find distasteful, but nobody else cares about the second user's behaviour, then their reports may not be (and sometimes *should* not be) effective.
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If an individual sends in reports about another user that they find distasteful, and a bunch of other people also send in reports, then their reports potentially should be effective.
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If an individual sends in reports about another user that they find distasteful, and a bunch of other people also send in reports, then their reports potentially should be effective.
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There is no way for the admins to know the difference between those two scenarios until all the reports come in. I don't see how we can have a "feedback mechanism" based on something that hasn't happened yet at the time of the initial reports.
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There is no way for the admins to know the difference between those two scenarios until all the reports come in. I don't see how we can have a "feedback mechanism" based on something that hasn't happened yet at the time of the initial reports.
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[quote]When people see you (the moderators) not "doing anything" because you've chosen to wait and see if it becomes a bigger issue, people lose faith in the system.[/quote]
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[quote]When people see you (the moderators) not "doing anything" because you've chosen to wait and see if it becomes a bigger issue, people lose faith in the system.[/quote]
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Catch-22. We're not doing anything because [b]we're not getting usable reports[/b].
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Catch-22. We're not doing anything because [b]we're not getting usable reports[/b].
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In this specific case I am quite sure that there are quite a few people in the community who would defend @moepmoep's style of play. For us to do something despite those people's opinions, I think we would need to be very sure that a very large section of the community is very sick of @moepmoep's conduct. We don't have anywhere close to the required amount of evidence to support that.
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In this specific case I am quite sure that there are quite a few people in the community who would defend @moepmoep's style of play. For us to do something despite those people's opinions, I think we would need to be very sure that a very large section of the community is very sick of @moepmoep's conduct. We don't have anywhere close to the required amount of evidence to support that.
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On the other hand, when @BotWIz accrued enough reports from a wide enough range of people he got well and truly modactioned.
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On the other hand, when @BotWIz accrued enough reports from a wide enough range of people he got well and truly modactioned.
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