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@SmokeDragon the one in vid is an older design and not that we talk about.
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@SmokeDragon the one in vid is an older design and not that we talk about.
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And the one in vid without windmill, without trailer is 7k€. there are cnc pipe bending thechinques, there are 2d cnc sheet metal cutting, and were talking only about that. what you see in that vid is a posh version of sandrail that passes as an urban groccery getter if you know how to rollcage using cnc pipe benders and nifty flat cut panels instead of full on heavy 3d presses used in traditional metal shaping it comes cheap.. think this:
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And the one in vid without windmill, without trailer is 7k€. there are cnc pipe bending thechinques, there are 2d cnc sheet metal cutting, and were talking only about that. what you see in that vid is a posh version of sandrail that passes as an urban groccery getter if you know how to rollcage using cnc pipe benders and nifty flat cut panels instead of full on heavy 3d presses used in traditional metal shaping it comes cheap.. think this:
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but more posh version of it, like rain proofed.
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but more posh version of it, like rain proofed.
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With
all
machinery
and
gymnastics
of
workforce
to
pay
for
it
will
add
up
to
around
7k€,
sub1k€
per
engine
wheels
and
power,
1k€
in
materials,
.
5k€
in
outsourcing
cnc
pipe
bending
and
offsetting
misc
machinery,
.
5k€
for
rent,
.
5k€
legalese,
2k€
workforce
and
rest
is
profit.
this
ends
with
a
pie
to
cut
with
VC
of
750k€
profit
on
500unit
production.
thats
like
2
units
a
day
with
5
people
crew
over
a
year.
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With
all
machinery
and
gymnastics
of
workforce
to
pay
for
it
will
add
up
to
around
7k€,
sub1k€
per
engine
wheels
and
power,
1k€
in
materials,
.
5k€
in
outsourcing
cnc
pipe
bending
and
offsetting
misc
machinery,
.
5k€
for
rent,
.
5k€
legalese,
2k€
workforce
and
rest
is
profit.
this
ends
with
a
pie
to
cut
with
VC
of
750k€
profit
on
500unit
production.
thats
like
2
units
a
day
with
5
people
crew
over
a
year.
the
numbers
are
highly
conservative,
like
2k€
budget
in
workforce
per
unit
with
2
units
a
day
gives
capacity
to
hire
20
entry
level
ppl
with
2k€/m
when
in
poland
1k€/m
is
baseline
salary
so
realy
conservative
numbers,
esp
were
talking
here
about
shit
optimised
and
thought
through,
and
complexity
of
high
end
mtb
bike
or
gokart
where
5
ppl
would
easily
do
piece
those
2
units
a
day.
so
like
better
to
over
budget
and
have
extra
gains
than
other
way
around.
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What
you
see
in
that
vid
is
i.
e.
upper
and
lower
reflectors
being
same
stamped
shape,
tail
lights
being
led
strips,
outside
hinges.
and
other
measures
that
make
it
work
on
cheaps.
i
have
a
history
in
Assembler
optimizations
along
with
slavs
who
did
mandelbrot
real
time
alogos
on
486
era
puters,
or
translated
on
fast
ones
on
c64
for
shits
and
giggles.
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What
you
see
in
that
vid
is
i.
e.
upper
and
lower
reflectors
being
same
stamped
shape,
tail
lights
being
led
strips,
outside
hinges.
and
other
measures
that
make
it
work
on
cheaps.
you
see
all
wheel
fenders
of
same
shape,
with
front
extra
stamp
step
to
fit
in
blinkers
or
maybe
a
plastic
glued
on
blinker
on
top.
i
have
a
history
in
Assembler
optimizations
along
with
slavs
who
did
mandelbrot
real
time
alogos
on
486
era
puters,
or
translated
on
fast
ones
on
c64
for
shits
and
giggles.
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Since then i figured out even better techique. But thats talk only under NDA with someone of VC pedigree.
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Since then i figured out even better techique. But thats talk only under NDA with someone of VC pedigree.
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@SmokeDragon, so like you know somoene whose into VC or just asking out of curiosity? IIRC you were with Atlasian, i have some other friend but hes CSIRO, so not much business contacts there. I have some highschool guy whos in city of london with business IT, doing yahts with money people, so maybe this, i have ex whos parents are CFO of 3M for poland, but shes deep into making happy pills for DARPA and were not on happy terms rn since whe had all to land a family on offgrid and she chose that crap. some big guys are here as well so like yea. cant hurt to ask.
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@SmokeDragon, so like you know somoene whose into VC or just asking out of curiosity? IIRC you were with Atlasian, i have some other friend but hes CSIRO, so not much business contacts there. I have some highschool guy whos in city of london with business IT, doing yahts with money people, so maybe this, i have ex whos parents are CFO of 3M for poland, but shes deep into making happy pills for DARPA and were not on happy terms rn since whe had all to land a family on offgrid and she chose that crap. some big guys are here as well so like yea. cant hurt to ask.
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Does anyone have a VC uncle here? (wanna do atv startup)