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Hi All,
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Hi All,
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This doesn't really fit in the main tournament forum post, so I'm making a separate one.
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This doesn't really fit in the main tournament forum post, so I'm making a separate one.
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During the course of LR #1, I witnessed a few players exhibit some behavior that I would perhaps call unsavory. There are also a few times when people expressed their opinions in a not so professional manner, so I would like to discuss these instances in this forum thread in order to ensure that this opinion doesn't happen again.
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During the course of LR #1, I witnessed a few players exhibit some behavior that I would perhaps call unsavory. There are also a few times when people expressed their opinions in a not so professional manner, so I would like to discuss these instances in this forum thread in order to ensure that this opinion doesn't happen again.
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Map Pool
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Map Pool
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I understand there are some frustrations regarding the Map Pool and selection process for this tournament. However, I would like to call attention to the fact that, directly after losing a match, calling the map pool "f***** stupid" and blaming your loss on the map is perhaps rather poor sportsmanship, and probably doesn't put you in the best light in the eyes of the community. Similarly, I have seen many comments today calling the map pool bad/garbage/etc but, at the same time, have heard no actual reasoning whatsoever as to what makes the maps bad (with the exception of Prestige, of which a tournament-legal edition rework is already planned). I am aware of the criticism regarding this map and there's no point beating it into the ground anymore because everyone already understands the issues.
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I understand there are some frustrations regarding the Map Pool and selection process for this tournament. However, I would like to call attention to the fact that, directly after losing a match, calling the map pool "f***** stupid" and blaming your loss on the map is perhaps rather poor sportsmanship, and probably doesn't put you in the best light in the eyes of the community. Similarly, I have seen many comments today calling the map pool bad/garbage/etc but, at the same time, have heard no actual reasoning whatsoever as to what makes the maps bad (with the exception of Prestige, of which a tournament-legal edition rework is already planned). I am aware of the criticism regarding this map and there's no point beating it into the ground anymore because everyone already understands the issues.
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I
am
[i]inclined[/i]
to
believe
that
most
people
are
criticizing
the
map
pool
due
2
sea
maps
being
included
in
the
pool.
Overall,
it
seems
like
many
people
were
fine
with
a
majority
of
the
other
ground
maps,
and
that
sea
were
the
two
being
most
complained
about.
This
potentially
means
a
few
things:
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I
am
[i]inclined[/i]
to
believe
that
most
people
are
criticizing
the
map
pool
due
to
2
sea
maps
being
included
in
the
pool.
Overall,
it
seems
like
many
people
were
fine
with
a
majority
of
the
other
ground
maps,
and
that
sea
were
the
two
being
most
complained
about.
This
potentially
means
a
few
things:
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* ZK Sea balance is bad.
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* ZK Sea balance is bad.
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* ZK Sea balance is good, but just unfun.
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* ZK Sea balance is good, but just unfun.
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* People are simply unwilling to play sea due to personal preference.
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* People are simply unwilling to play sea due to personal preference.
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In any of these cases, the problem is not with the map pool, but rather with either the game or the player (very inclined to thing of players on this one). Thus, unless someone specifically identifies issues to do with Izki or Shimmershore, both of which are [i] MM support maps for 1v1 queue[/i], I cannot accept this as a reason why the map pool is bad. If someone has actual issues with these maps, and I mean [i]real[/i] issues that make them unfair, broken, or in some way not fit for tournament use, please comment them below.
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In any of these cases, the problem is not with the map pool, but rather with either the game or the player (very inclined to thing of players on this one). Thus, unless someone specifically identifies issues to do with Izki or Shimmershore, both of which are [i] MM support maps for 1v1 queue[/i], I cannot accept this as a reason why the map pool is bad. If someone has actual issues with these maps, and I mean [i]real[/i] issues that make them unfair, broken, or in some way not fit for tournament use, please comment them below.
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Please note that I welcome criticism, but I will only listen to those who give factual reasons and evidence to back up their complaints. Saying "I think this is stupid" in the comments will not affect my decisions. Similarly, I do not take excessive swearing about anything to be a sign of intelligence, so please demonstrate civility in your feedback.
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Please note that I welcome criticism, but I will only listen to those who give factual reasons and evidence to back up their complaints. Saying "I think this is stupid" in the comments will not affect my decisions. Similarly, I do not take excessive swearing about anything to be a sign of intelligence, so please demonstrate civility in your feedback.
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Player Behavior
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Player Behavior
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For the most part today, player behavior was fairly decent. However, I would [i]really[/i] rather not see the following things:
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For the most part today, player behavior was fairly decent. However, I would [i]really[/i] rather not see the following things:
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* Jeering/Harassing someone [i]after[/i] they were eliminated (this one I didn't see a particularly strong example of, but I would like it if it didn't happen in the future).
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* Jeering/Harassing someone [i]after[/i] they were eliminated (this one I didn't see a particularly strong example of, but I would like it if it didn't happen in the future).
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* Blaming your losses on other factors (map, hardware, factory RPS, etc) - these are things you have some degree of control over or that are related to skill.
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* Blaming your losses on other factors (map, hardware, factory RPS, etc) - these are things you have some degree of control over or that are related to skill.
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* Assorted other behaviors that made various members of our community appear slightly uncouth.
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* Assorted other behaviors that made various members of our community appear slightly uncouth.
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Remember, tournaments are a test of skills, preparedness, and endurance. If you lack in these things, they will show - and it will not be anyone's fault but yours.
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Remember, tournaments are a test of skills, preparedness, and endurance. If you lack in these things, they will show - and it will not be anyone's fault but yours.
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If you have thoughts concerning changes you would like to see, comment below.
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If you have thoughts concerning changes you would like to see, comment below.
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Thanks!
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Thanks!
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Qrow
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Qrow
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Regarding LR #1 (4/5/2025)