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Scorcher Buff? Thoughts?

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7/1/2026 6:02:34 PMDErankkatastrophe before revert after revert
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1 Rover has fencer to deal with raiders. Scorcher is absolutely insane against everything it can hug. It's a bit like complaining about Kodachi not being good against solars. 1 Rover has fencer to deal with raiders. Scorcher is absolutely insane against everything it can hug. It's a bit like complaining about Kodachi not being good against solars.
2 That said: 2 That said:
3 Scorcher-micro is really it's own discipline. I am not going to write a tutorial here, but for them to be effective offensively, you need to turn their AI off, maybe even switch their move-state to hold position. Why? Well, let's say you want them to kill a minotaur. Your job is to get them as close as possible, but if you are not super-precise, you might accidentaly click on the tank and thus issue a normal attack-command - which will make them instantly swarm out to keep some distance to the target. It's really annoying. Since the primary job of unit-AI is self-preservation, you can't even say it doesn't do what it is supposed to, but especially with scorchers, it is kind of hilariously anti-synergistic. 3 Scorcher-micro is really it's own discipline. I am not going to write a tutorial here, but for them to be effective offensively, you need to turn their AI off, maybe even switch their move-state to hold position. Why? Well, let's say you want them to kill a minotaur. Your job is to get them as close as possible, but if you are not super-precise, you might accidentaly click on the tank and thus issue a normal attack-command - which will make them instantly swarm out to keep some distance to the target. It's really annoying. Since the primary job of unit-AI is self-preservation, you can't even say it doesn't do what it is supposed to, but especially with scorchers, it is kind of hilariously anti-synergistic.
4 Pair this with the mentioned bad matchup against other raiders to get a unit that suffers hard in higher density games. But hey, if you can get a swarm of them into the enemies backline, no other raider will remotely come close to the speed in which that backline just dissappears. 4 Pair this with the mentioned bad matchup against other raiders to get a unit that suffers hard in higher density games. But hey, if you can get a swarm of them into the enemies backline, no other raider will remotely come close to the speed in which that backline is converted to past-tense.
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6 So, do I think they need a buff? I lean towards no. Rover has such a strong early game already (again: fencer) and scorchers are so good in their specific niche that I think it's okay. 6 So, do I think they need a buff? I lean towards no. Rover has such a strong early game already (again: fencer) and scorchers are so good in their specific niche that I think it's okay.
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8 About https://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/2456592 8 About https://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/2456592
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10 Scorcher-dart spam really was not the play here. Fencers to defend against glaives (and apply pressure against them to push them back), and a few scorchers to attack everything vulnerable. They would have had a field day with that commander at 5:30 or so as Bucky pointed out. But using them to defend against other raiders is really not what they are designed to do. 10 Scorcher-dart spam really was not the play here. Fencers to defend against glaives (and apply pressure against them to push them back), and a few scorchers to attack everything vulnerable. They would have had a field day with that commander at 5:30 or so as Bucky pointed out. But using them to defend against other raiders is really not what they are designed to do.
11 Also: The main reason why they got owned by those glaives is not primarily that they don't hit them, it's their insane damage fall-off. Glaives can keep distance and apply their full DPS. Bandits are even worse for scorcher in this regard. 11 Also: The main reason why they got owned by those glaives is not primarily that they don't hit them, it's their insane damage fall-off. Glaives can keep distance and apply their full DPS. Bandits are even worse for scorcher in this regard.