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Title: MatchMaker 3381
Host: Nobody
Game version: Zero-K v1.6.5.1
Engine version: 104.0.1-287-gf7b0fcc
Started: 10 days ago
Duration: 3 minutes
Players: 2
Bots: False
Mission: False
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Team 1
Chance of victory: 29.7%

CHrankDrDoom
Team 2
Chance of victory: 70.3%

NOrankKingstad
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RUrankivand
PErankSpartacus_

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RUrankivand
10 days ago
Can we unfeature all small maps please?
There is zero enjoyment being rushed like this.
+4 / -0

USrankFealthas
10 days ago
Can we add a VETO SYSTEM, so that EVERYONE is HAPPY with the maps they play on?
+0 / -0

USrankFealthas
10 days ago
Also, im not sure that map size has much to do with preventing rushes. Ive seen raaars banisher rushes work on desert needle too many times.
+0 / -0



GBrank[Fx]Drone
10 days ago
In SC2 its mandatory to scout enemy base at the start of every game to make sure you aren't being cheesed.

This is no different in ZK. NOrankKingstad didnt scout, that's all there is to this game.

I will admit though that I'm feeling lately that rushing almost always pays off. Its not just a small map thing either, even on a bigger one like trojan hills, if you make 3 pyros instantly instead of being the guy who rush cons (me) it almost seem guaranteed to pay off.

Maybe it's another thing that comes down to the picket nerf. You can't reliably defend with LLTs at all, not even close. So if you made cons and they made unit/s youre kind of screwed.
+0 / -0

PTrankraaar
10 days ago
(edited 10 days ago)

tanks have no cheap scouts, cheapest one being the 160m kodachi. And if you're paying for one that might get killed by a pair of raiders, might as well build two, which makes the whole thing more expensive.
+0 / -0



GBrank[Fx]Drone
10 days ago
Kodachi is a really strong early game unit and is very fast, it is a perfectly capable scout unless youre making tanks on some janky bot map
+0 / -0

USrankStuart98
10 days ago
Zero-K Forums: "Tanks are too good on every map even the ones they shouldn't be good on!"

Also Zero-K Forums: "I'm going tanks on a small bot map and getting cheesed because tank scouts aren't good enough!"

(Mostly not serious post)
+1 / -0

PTrankraaar
10 days ago
(edited 10 days ago)

I'm not saying tanks are bad, they're great atm, just that their expensive scout makes them more vulnerable to cheese, especially if they're rushing something themselves.

All this adds to the blind rps aspect of ZK's early game.
+0 / -0