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What do you think about smurfs in ZK? Are they harmful, or are they actually helpful in some cases?

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How should smurfs be treated?
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I'm sure there's something to discuss

Like how do we stop smurfs?
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7 years ago
^

Confirmed
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7 years ago
If you don't have a purpose for a thread, don't make it.

FYI, this is the sort of thing people take issue with. You've posted four times and still nothing of substance has occurred. If you wanted to talk about smurfs, make the thread about smurfs, or at least specifically state in the OP that that's part of the intention for the thread.

But even then, you've been interacting with smurfs fairly socially... So I'm inclined to believe you don't actually care what we do about smurfs.
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7 years ago
I dislike that there is a guy who makes tons of worthless posts everywhere.
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Whats the point of this thread NZrankhedgehogs ? I'm geniuinely asking.
+2 / -0
7 years ago
Discussing
+0 / -4
7 years ago
Discussing what?
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7 years ago
Newbs in PW

How do we keep and retain players

Advertising.

Bringing news in

Welcoming newbs

Rules for people.
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M8

That's a large number to keep you now
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don't actually care what we do about smurfs


I do, I agree we must ban them, but I don't shun them. Knorke is still a person.


One problem with smurfs Knorke loves to exploit is to walk around bans and whatnot, but there is no realistic way to stop smurfs besides making accounts email only, and a confirmation must be sent, which at the most will slow down smurfs, but a determined smurf can still get through. We must also be pretty vigilant, GabbaGandalf got banned because we thought he was Knorke, but it was found out he actually was not. This could be attributed to "smurf-rage", where anyone acting like a smurf can be banned, when they actually are not and thus result in them leaving. Smurfs might also bring a bad name to our community, if Knorke decides to spam "ZK DEAD" all over the place, the newbies will feel like it is dead whilst people who haved played longer will know it isn't, but newbies that are in Australia/New Zealand have a different timezone and could feel lonely since there are rarely any games past 8:00, and incorrectly attribute lower playerbase than their timezones, since lots of our players are on the opposite sides of the world, which makes playing with them pretty limited since they are only up at specific times.
Smurfs that can get through security will put a strain on people as well, if someone decides to go as smurf and play games, while shouting insults, then making a new account once their banned makes people think the security is pretty bad, and scathing insults can seriously stick to someone later on whilst they are still playing ZK, which defeatist smurfs could use to make people quit, since no one likes getting insulted repeatedly with no good reason. However these smurfs are always Harmful to community, since their intention is to make people leave and feel unwelcome to ZK, which is already having some low player rate and retention...

I think they should be banned if the smurfs are harmful, or are trying to exploit ELO/WHR, but smurfs that people made just for the sake of having smurfs should have a rule in which only their originals can post, so people can recognise who is speaking to them, and to make communication much easier. However I cannot think of a good use for a smurf, only the responses to them, and I also say people should not go crazy and think someone is something when they aren't, so we don't get "smurf-rage", and get an innocent person banned, so I say adopt a posture you would to an actual player, look first, judge later.
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As already mentioned by GBrankAdminDeinFreund, Whole History Rating could be a solution.
Unlike elo, it only needs few games to give a good level evaluation of someone.
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7 years ago
In 5 months more then 1000 comments/threads in forum. :D :D
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7 years ago
Would it actually? I thought that only for returning players who had previous histories? Or am I being daft again?
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Firepluk
7 years ago
NZrankhedgehogs can't hold his shit together :P
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AUrankSnuggleBass it's main strength is in quickly evaluating newbies. I once did a ladder without decay and it was full of low level smurfs and their mains.

It is already running on the test server and with CZrankAdminLicho support it might soon be on the live server as well.
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7 years ago
smurfs are evil
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7 years ago
yes
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