Commander Modules / Morphing

Hey guys, two questions on commanders.

* How do you select your weapon modules? For example shotgun vs riot cannon, they do pretty much the same? Or sunburst vs dgun.. ?

* Why is base upgrade from lvl 2 to 3 more expensive than from 3 to 4? Gameplay wise, isnt that a bit strange?

So you pay for the slot, not for the weapon? I didn't even have a lvl 3 weapon up until yesterday, but apparently I still paid for the slot when upgrading. Seems unfair. If you make a lightweight commander without lvl 3 weapon it should be cheaper to morph imho..

Can't we make all the weapons more expensive and the base morph lower? Or will that mess up gameplay in some other way?

Read more than the first sentence!!!

"Weapons themselves cannot be expensive enough to account for their power as that would make level 1 comms too expensive"

Yoy, Google is right once! Do the math yourself, any modules value is its usefulness multiplied with all other stats of a unit.

An example:
Give a 10 dps 100 hp 100 metal unit a 50 dps gun with 100 metal cost.
=> 15dps 100hp 200metal
Give a 100 dps 1000 hp 1000 metal unit a 50 dps gun with 100 metal cost.
=> 105dps 1000hp 1100metal

A units power/cost is dps*hp/cost:
1st unit: 10*100/100 =10
2nd unit: 100*1000/1000 =100

After adding new weapons:
1st unit: 60*100/200 =30 (+20)
2nd unit: 150*1000/1100 ~=136 (+36)

I know, that's lotsa math.

Well, stronger units benefiting more from a certain morph means the morph will have to be more expensive at higher morph levels. Right now that's done with base costs for morphing.

We couldn't have a completely ingame testing system as all commander choices and morph levels are created at the start of the game from springie and test data.

Skasi:
> I know, that's lotsa math.

How would you calculate that:?
( you choose Laser + dmg booster as default and it costs 200 )
COM Lvl 1: 110 DPS / 1600 HP / 1600 cost
( morph gives you 2 high density platings ( 2* 1600 HP ), get 1* 1000 HP for the 2nd level and it costs additionally 300 + 2* 475 )
COM Lvl 2: 110 DPS / 5800 HP / 2850
( morph gives you 1* 110 dps weapon, 2 high density platings ( 2* 1600 HP ), get 1* 1000 HP for the 3rd level and it costs additionally 900 + 2* 475 + 100 )
COM Lvl 2: 220 DPS / 9000 HP / 4800


Would that be right?
> A units power/cost is dps*hp/cost:
Lvl 1: 110*1600/1600 = 110
Lvl 2: 110*5800/2850 ~ 220
Lvl 3: 220*9000/4800 ~ 420

How do you calculate the speed and repair rates?

lvl 3 should be expensive because it's the biggest upgrade

all the good modules are only usable around this level; like artillery upgrade and others.. and the 2nd weapon in itself is probably more valuable than 3 modules

Is here any point to use energy cell as module? Well I once thought of creating fusion com for lolz, but dont have unlocked everything yet.

LulzLizard: I realize the stuff you can get at lvl 3 is the most important. But why don't you pay for the stuff you actually get, rather than the supposed ability to use the stuff?

This way it is really unfair to players who haven't unlocked enough to actually use the lvl 3 slots. They end up paying a disproportional amount of metal just for the extra hitpoints and speed/range/whatever bonus.

Andoriel: Sure you can manage to stuff really expensive upgrades in lvl-4, and cheap ones in the lvl 3, such that the morph to lvl 3 costs less total metal. But that is besides the point of why the base morph cost for lvl 3 is the highest.

wolas: Energy module gives you a jumpstart at lvl 1 I guess. It's good for amateurs like me, having 3 solars built-in at game start. Gets your eco going easier, although later into the game it is pretty much a waste.