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Title: Zero-K: All Welcome
Host: CZrankSpringiee8
Game version: Zero-K v1.3.4.4
Engine version: 98.0.1-451-g0804ae1
Battle ID: 348442
Started: 8 years ago
Duration: 23 minutes
Players: 17
Bots: False
Mission: False
Rating: Casual
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Chance of victory: 55.7%

Firepluk
unknownrankShaman
DErankSeisdrum
ROrankJoeDoe
PLrankWhiteshadow
UArankBotan
USrankStrog
DErankSaandro86

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8 years ago
How to counter roaches from space with valkyre? I do not see any. Killing terraed newtons is impossible. You would need at least 50 bombers to get a chance of destryoing.
missile lab too far away etc...
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8 years ago
Are the valkyres targetable by any AA? Screamer maybe?
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8 years ago
This new and improved roach cannon seems to be extremely accurate.
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8 years ago
Hmm, tried same in my sandbox and could never get any success. Valkiries blow up with roach immediately after I press drop in the air. What's the secret of success? xD
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8 years ago
A short range Roach cannon is a bit like a budget Bertha which costs metal to fire. A long ranged Roach cannon costs quite a bit more.

I have fixed the bug which made Roaches and Ticks invisible if ejected in midair. This at least makes it more clear what is going on. Now experiment to see if there is anything able to shoot a flying Roach. I managed to get Defenders to sometimes shoot down Roaches.

https://github.com/ZeroK-RTS/Zero-K/commit/2407a5aa9684e4ace55a9aa64ddf60cb82a307e8
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Firepluk
8 years ago
right let's nerf this...

This is:
a. expensive on most of the maps
b. requires metal for each shot, doesn't matter hit or not

BB/SILO is mostly always more profitable and cheaper
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Firepluk
> This at least makes it more clear what is going on. Now experiment to see if there is anything able to shoot a flying Roach. I managed to get Defenders to sometimes shoot down Roaches.

This renders the whole cannon totally useless AUrankAdminGoogleFrog
80m defender counters 4k metal ramp
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Firepluk
Keeping in mind you can't intercept BB/Silo projectiles
still nobody complains why his defenders can't kill flying missile or BB energy blast...
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8 years ago
Silo is killable by air very often and silo cannot reach whole map
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8 years ago
Hey Firepluk it is not my fault that Roaches are meant to burrow to cloak. But given they burrow to cloak it makes no sense for them to cloak when flying through the air. That was a bug to be fixed and probably has little impact on the effectiveness of tossing Roaches.

The 'sometimes' for Defenders was quite rare. They would often fire but not hit until the Roach has already impacted.
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