Seismic radar

Ah, but you forget they are scanning in a sphere, so in reality the increase isn't just from 2.1k to 4k but from a volume of 19386360000 elmo cubed to 133973333333 elmo cubed. That is an increase of 114586973333 elmo cubed, an increase of 490%.

For serious though, the range is very worth it, because in later game there are more long range explody things that tend to splatter the very soft radar towers, so having one able to be back a bit and still get a good, non-exploded, view of the field is handy. If you rely on radar towers alone in a big game, it isn't actually all that hard to get blinded.

Advanced radar used to not only offer this range, but also halved the radar inaccuracy for every radar built. So since this has been removed, I don't think the high price is still appropriate.

I'd say Owl is currently a much better late-game investment. It has increased radar range over the standard radar, jams the enemy radar and gives you direct LOS over most of the front line at two thirds the cost of an advanced radar.

What I really like about the current radar is that it's most effective at detecting air. Especially the advanced one can be a great force multiplier for your team's air player, while still keeping ground play interesting. Seismic radar would focus it on units instead and remove the ability to use radar jammers or terrain to make a sneaky approach.

In general I'm probably in favor of the current bad radar and might even support an Owl nerf. There are great cloaked scout units that hardly see any use outside of early-game 1v1.

Agreed, flying radar jam should be Athena exclusive.
For a cheaper Owl you can basically kill enemy radar by telling a small group of Owls to just land in a line through your frontline, and enemy is screwed since owls block all their radar.

Put a Cornea and have an owl or 2 on patrol inside it's cloak radius and you've basically got a really big radar jamming zone with great radar and vision.

You just made the cloaking mechanic a whole lot more complex. Until now there were only two cases where a cloaked unit would show its position: When getting too close to an enemy and when firing its weapon (Except Phantom).

Now there are three.

maybe the radar should display a short term blip or some sort triffered on map .


When i contruction is placed\completed
when i unit land\ from a jump
something else..


I like the idea, but not sure how it really improves the game

Some other games show ripples in the general direction where there is heavy fire that you can hear. This is relative to your view, not the minimap, so it is not easy to tell exactly where the fire is coming from. How about that?