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Map: AlienDesert
 AlienDesert
Title: Sigero's Battle
Host: ROrankSigero
Game version: Zero-K v1.7.8.4
Engine version: 104.0.1-1344-g07bdbaf
Battle ID: 759348
Started: 4 years ago
Duration: 29 minutes
Players: 1
Bots: True
Mission: False
Rating: None
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PErankvenom69
Team 2

AI: Brutal (1) <DevCircuitAIBrutal32>
AI: Brutal (2) <DevCircuitAIBrutal32>
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DErankTopkack

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DErankTopkack
4 years ago
Did not know AI can launch nukes and knows where to put berthas

Scary
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USrankCrazyEddie
4 years ago
From what I've seen, the AI knows how to launch nukes but doesn't know how to stop sending them into areas covered by antinukes. It just keeps failing to nuke the same spot over and over.
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USrank[GBC]1v0ry_k1ng
4 years ago
quote:
Did not know AI can launch nukes and knows where to put berthas


AI can do a surprising number of cool things, it just most are fairly low probability.
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MXrankmoleculeman88
4 years ago
i think we just need to tone it down with ai brutal. just a tad bit and not make so damn powerful.
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USrankOflameo
4 years ago
The AI is not good enough unless it can beat the top players consistently like the Chess AIs can.
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EErankAdminAnarchid
4 years ago
(edited 4 years ago)
If only we could have afford hundreds of millions of dollars in losses like DeepMind, then we could also have Alpha-K to sometimes defeat top10 players.
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DErankkatastrophe
4 years ago
I totally trust an it-team to sink in millions of dollars into Circuit-AI
instead of using it for covering server-costs and advertisement...
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EErankAdminAnarchid
4 years ago
If we had hundreds of megabucks for advertisement, maybe we could fund the AI project from donations!
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USrankAdminSteel_Blue
4 years ago
https://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/759401
https://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/759411
https://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/759419

I tested fighting against the AI like this, with my own stratagy. It feels like the AI is cheating because it starts with 2X the possible units and +6/+8 extra income. Adding a null AI to my side gives me much less of a handicap, equalizing my income to that of the AI as well as giving me a 500m/500e handicap in the form of the null AI's storage. Venom did very well with kodachis distracting and raiding the AI. but being against an extra com he didn't really slow it down.

I definately play more aggressively, expanding faster and focusing on the bottom line of my metal income above all. I tend to also leave my expands very naked. It's intrersting how when Venom uses gauss turrets, they become a hardpoint that the AI has a lot of trouble attacking, and the AI will run face first into an llt line much more easily.

Null AI works well as a handicap in your favor playing against 2 brutals with a small start location. It could be interesting to have an 'extra com AI' that donates the com immediately on gamestart, or even a way to comshare like in the campaign, 2 players 1 com.
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USrankOflameo
4 years ago
I am going to make an arrangement with the coredevs. I can't do megabucks but I can do hectobucks right now.
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unknownrankShaman
4 years ago
quote:
It could be interesting to have an 'extra com AI' that donates the com immediately on gamestart, or even a way to comshare like in the campaign, 2 players 1 com.


There originally was, but this was hacky. Maybe I'll look into it.
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USrankAdminSteel_Blue
4 years ago
@_Shaman, might as well ask you directly-what do you think of a tournament between teams of n size, but every team only spawns with a fixed 2 or 3 coms?
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MXrankmoleculeman88
4 years ago
you know what shaman it's time for another epic tournament ;D this month
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unknownrankShaman
4 years ago
quote:
might as well ask you directly-what do you think of a tournament between teams of n size, but every team only spawns with a fixed 2 or 3 coms?


Depends on a number of factors such as how the commander start locations are set, etc. I want to make my automated commshare widget be able to select the location of allies. I don't know exactly how the engine does start locations or how zk has implemented them yet but that's a task for some day in the future.
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USrankAdminSteel_Blue
4 years ago
(edited 4 years ago)
There's an option to set ai spawns via map markers, probably just copy parts of that. Under advanced setting in a room, under start tab. I realize now it can be a lot more complicated than I think.
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