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It is the year 2021 and Caretaker is still invisible

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3 years ago
Caretakers are still missing a Ghost in fog of war, unlike all other buildings.
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3 years ago
Because caretaker isn't a building, it's a really really really really slow mobile unit.
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3 years ago
Then why can't I throw them with lobsters?
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3 years ago
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Then why can't I throw them with lobsters?


you can, but it's really really really really slow
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3 years ago
I'm pretty sure the Ghosts are drawn using client-side lua instead of the engine itself, can't it just include Caretaker too?
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3 years ago
ZK has a widget that draws ghosts for features and incomplete buildings. Normal structure ghosts are drawn by engine.
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Mod edit: removed some smurf shitpost
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ZK has a widget that draws ghosts for features and incomplete buildings. Normal structure ghosts are drawn by engine.


If the topic is true.....
Why is there a need of a widget?
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3 years ago
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If the topic is true.....
Why is there a need of a widget?

The engine considers statics with buildpower to be factories. Therefore Caretaker is a mobile unit with every aspect of its mobility removed - but it still identifies as mobile.

The engine does not do ghosts for mobile units.
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Why is it a mobile unit? I have never seen anyone move a caretaker as they are so cheap to build on the spot. There's very few people that even know it can be transported as it's such a useless feature of the unit.
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3 years ago
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The engine considers statics with buildpower to be factories.


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Why is it a mobile unit?


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3 years ago
USrankAdminSteel_Blue what's the problem with being considered a factory?
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3 years ago
A factory's buildpower only applies to the units it starts building itself. It sounds like an old TA-ism, one of the things about the engine that is probably undesireable in this day and age. The engine's defaults are not the best for Z-K, and many systems have been re-implemented or implemented from scratch in lua gadgets.
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3 years ago
USrankAdminSteel_Blue I can still see a visible decal on the ground through fog of war where the caretaker is supposed to be, a sort of 2 lines of shadows.

Could this decal be adjusted to be more visible or representative of the caretaker?
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3 years ago
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. There's very few people that even know it can be transported as it's such a useless feature of the unit.

Caretaker cannot be transported or teleported.
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3 years ago
Fwiw if I could teleport caretakers I totally would. Cheaper than making conches to bring along, plus you generally have some already built you could utilize. Just plop the lamp down and pick them up regardless of where they are.
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3 years ago
Caretaker had a ghost in earlier years but this feature was removed from the engine in the name of clearing up inconsistencies. Consider yourself lucky that it doesn't have radar wobble, because even that had to be patched up with lua after the change.
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