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sonar radar for undersea detection

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Hougo 5 days ago need undersea early detection and not till they reach our front +0 / -0
TechAUmNu 4 days ago I agree, the lack of vision underwater makes playing water maps a nightmare. One thing I noticed recently is that all underwater weapons are basically guaranteed hit. Which loses a lot of the nuance of zk being able to dodge with good micro. I wonder if this is why sea feels so bad compared to land? +0 / -0
Aquanim 4 days ago (edited 4 days ago) Sonar that worked like radar used to exist. The extent of that sonar was difficult to communicate to players. A conscious design choice was made to get rid of it, so that underwater units would have more distinct properties compared to surface units. The 3-D nature of underwater combat makes it very difficult to design weapons that are not guaranteed hit which would be good for gameplay. I do not want to be doing surface/submerge micro on Buoys to dodge unguided torpedoes, for instance. +3 / -0
SmokeDragon 4 days ago (edited 4 days ago) Urchin has the same sonar range as Sonar Station in the game files but it is expencive. a cheap way to detect underwater units is a windgen.. when it dies you know units are on there way +0 / -0
Killingtime 4 days ago If you have at least 1 air, owl will usually spot it. That's like 2nd on my build order as air +1 / -0