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12 years ago
3 newbs + I = my team

godde (

top player ) + 3 EI clan members

other team

result: I lost because of flears banshee spy


55 seconds ago (IUSP)Blaise got 179 (+90 from techs ) influence at Saddeygo from B10722
55 seconds ago (EI)Godde got 143 (+54 from techs ) influence at Saddeygo from B10722
55 seconds ago (I)Hinoki got 143 (+54 from techs ) influence at Saddeygo from B10722
55 seconds ago (EI)Epicock got 143 (+54 from techs ) influence at Saddeygo from B10722
14 minutes ago (FL)IonStorm sends 10 dropships to Saddeygo

http://zero-k.info/Planetwars/Planet/2275

http://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/10722



(22:34) * PW http://zero-k.info/PW
(22:34) * PW GAME IS CURRENTLY IN PROGRESS, PLEASE WAIT TILL IT ENDS! Running for 00:10:13
(22:34) * PW If you say !notify, I will PM you when game ends.
(22:34) * PW (GotP)(bru)pasou this is competetive PW campaign server. Join a clan to conquer the galaxy http://zero-k.info/PW/ClanList
(22:34) PW: ((I)burp)lolol
(22:35) PW: ((EI)Skasi)geez why didnt my comm target the unit but instead shot the structure.. makes no sense
(22:36) PW: ((DOOP)Rafal)do not let Ion win pls
(22:36) PW: ((I)burp)+300m :D
(22:37) PW: ((DOOP)Rafal)lol
(22:37) PW: ((EI)Thograsm)noob
(22:37) PW: ((EI)Skasi)I wanna kick half my team its a pain
(22:37) PW: (Fainth)yeah
(22:37) (AG)abma joined the battle.
(22:37) * PW http://zero-k.info/PW
(22:37) * PW GAME IS CURRENTLY IN PROGRESS, PLEASE WAIT TILL IT ENDS! Running for 00:13:43
(22:37) * PW If you say !notify, I will PM you when game ends.
(22:37) * PW (AG)abma this is competetive PW campaign server. Join a clan to conquer the galaxy http://zero-k.info/PW/ClanList
(22:37) PW: (Fainth)and ?
(22:37) PW: ((I)burp)every fail harder
(22:39) t0rb3n left the battle( ).
(22:39) PW: ((DOOP)Rafal)lol
(22:39) PW: ((EI)Skasi)why?
(22:39) PW: ((EI)Skasi)cause Pw fails at balancing, or something else?
(22:39) PW: ((DOOP)Rafal)u had good team
(22:40) PW: ((EI)Skasi)srsly?
(22:40) PW: ((EI)Skasi)we have zero AA
(22:40) PW: ((DOOP)Rafal)yeah it is balance fault for sure
(22:40) PW: ((EI)Skasi)for sure
(22:41) PW: ((EI)Skasi)I cant even order them to jump, cause chili slows everything down :(
(22:41) (EI)Godde joined the battle.
(22:41) * PW http://zero-k.info/PW
(22:41) * PW GAME IS CURRENTLY IN PROGRESS, PLEASE WAIT TILL IT ENDS! Running for 00:17:49
(22:41) * PW If you say !notify, I will PM you when game ends.
(22:41) * PW Greetings (EI)Godde of (EI), welcome to (DOOP)Rafal planet Hhalen http://zero-k.info/PW/Planet/2230
(22:41) PW: ((DOOP)Rafal)get non wooden comp
(22:42) PW: ((DOOP)Rafal)xD
(22:42) PW: ((EI)Skasi)oh well
(22:42) PW: ((I)burp)lol
(22:42) PW: ((DOOP)Rafal)lol at that spy
(22:42) PW: ((I)burp)ionstorm's last resort
(22:42) PW: ((I)burp)lichos
(22:42) PW: ((EI)Skasi)eriously why is the game so slow
(22:43) PW: ((DOOP)Rafal)not for me
(22:43) PW: ((EI)Thograsm)i cant stand how slow it is so i quti
(22:43) PW: ((EI)Skasi)its not like that usually
(22:43) PW: ((I)burp)eah
(22:43) PW: ((I)burp)thats the reason
(22:43) PW: ((EI)Skasi)and its not exactly slow but stutterung
(22:43) PW: ((DOOP)Rafal)what is your fps?
(22:43) PW: ((EI)Skasi)15-20
(22:44) PW: ((I)burp)10
(22:44) PW: ((I)burp)fine for me
(22:44) PW: ((EI)Skasi)yeah I told you its not the fps
(22:44) PW: ((I)burp)nice
(22:44) PW: ((I)burp)1000 free metal from licho
(22:45) PW: ((EI)Skasi)the only thing thats different for me is I turned chatscroll on.. that cant be it though
(22:45) PW: ((DOOP)Rafal)sfireman go a little to south west
(22:45) PW: ((EI)Skasi)Ionstorm, Fainth, Odin, resign already
(22:45) PW: ((EI)Skasi)mmh maybe its the many geospots?
(22:45) PW: ((EI)Skasi)but why should geospots slow the game down..
(22:45) (IUSP)Blaise joined the battle.
(22:45) * PW http://zero-k.info/PW
(22:45) * PW GAME IS CURRENTLY IN PROGRESS, PLEASE WAIT TILL IT ENDS! Running for 00:22:01
(22:45) * PW If you say !notify, I will PM you when game ends.
(22:45) * PW Greetings Premier (IUSP)Blaise of Intergalactic Union of Socialist Planets, welcome to (DOOP)Rafal planet Hhalen http://zero-k.info/PW/Planet/2230
(22:46) PW: ((DOOP)Rafal)they wont
(22:46) PW: ((DOOP)Rafal)it may be complex terrainif anything
(22:46) PW: (Fainth)shields are useless vs licho ?
(22:46) (FL)ZPRaven: bb i go sleep
(22:46) PW: ((EI)Skasi)no
(22:46) PW: (Fainth)looked like it
(22:46) PW: ((DOOP)Rafal)they only eat 1 shot
(22:46) (AG)abma left the battle( ).
(22:46) PW: ((EI)Odin)Ion storm didnt do anithyng again?
(22:46) PW: ((GENCO)Hellaciouss)you only had 2 shields
(22:46) PW: ((GENCO)Hellaciouss) have 3 lichos
(22:46) * PW Game over, exiting
(22:46) PW: (Heroiccookie)hey burp look! i played pretty good! :D
(22:46) PW: ((EI)Skasi)or well tather, yes, you need to kill it, not hide behind a shield like a STUPID MORON
(22:46) PW: ((FL)IonStorm)I had one licho
(22:47) (DOOP)Rafal: gj sfireman
(22:47) Heroiccookie: Hey burp! I played pretty good that time! :D
(22:47) (DOOP)Rafal: ion lost 32 ships!
(22:47) (FL)IonStorm: not nothing
(22:47) * PW Winning combination score: 0 team difference, -0.22 elo, 17.6 composition. Win chance 51%
(22:47) (I)burp: ok ^^
(22:47) (I)burp: 32 lol
(22:47) (GotP)(bru)pasou left the battle( ).
(22:47) (DOOP)Rafal: yeah
(22:47) (FL)IonStorm: I spam glaives rockos and lost it to licho
(22:47) NonOfSense joined the battle.
(22:47) * PW http://zero-k.info/PW
(22:47) * PW NonOfSense this is competetive PW campaign server. Join a clan to conquer the galaxy http://zero-k.info/PW/ClanList
(22:47) (DOOP)Rafal: he sent 2 waves
(22:47) Heroiccookie left the battle( ).
(22:47) (EI)Skasi: Well wait yeah it is, 'cause you need to SHOOT the Licho, not hide behind a shield like a stupid MORON :O
(22:47) (FL)IonStorm: and my licho ?!?!??!
(22:47) (FL)IonStorm: against slow?
(22:47) * PW changing map to Grts_DesertValley_012
(22:47) * PW Welcome to (IUSP)DanteLorel planet Taros http://zero-k.info/PW/Planet/2194
(22:47) * PW Battle on http://zero-k.info/PW/Planet/2230 has ended
(22:47) * PW (DOOP)SFireMan got 162 (+156 from techs -73 from domination ) influence at Hhalen
(22:47) * PW (IUSP)sheep got 175 (+96 from techs ) influence at Hhalen
(22:47) * PW (GENCO)Hellaciouss got 133 (+54 from techs ) influence at Hhalen
(22:47) * PW (I)burp got 106 (+27 from techs ) influence at Hhalen
(22:47) * PW (I)szmadar got 106 (+27 from techs ) influence at Hhalen
(22:47) * PW Congratulations (EI)Odin! You just leveled up to level 12. http://zero-k.info/Users/(EI)Odin
(22:47) * PW Congratulations (PIMP)Nukeitzer! You just leveled up to level 2. http://zero-k.info/Users/(PIMP)Nukeitzer
(22:47) * PW View full battle details and demo at http://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/10706
(22:48) (DOOP)Rafal left the battle( ).
(22:48) (FL)ZPRaven left the battle( ).
(22:48) (TUPM)TheDarkStar: !ring
(22:48) * PW ringing (EI)Odin, Fainth, (PinK)Pizdostradalec, (IUSP)Blaise, NonOfSense,
(22:48) * Fainth is not downloading map with SL torrent system
(22:48) * (IUSP)Blaise is not downloading map with SL torrent system
(22:48) * NonOfSense downloading map eta: 39 s
(22:48) * (EI)Odin is not downloading map with SL torrent system
(22:48) * PW changing map to FrozenFortress_v2
(22:48) * PW Welcome to (TUPM)(GBC)Praetor planet Simiadha http://zero-k.info/PW/Planet/2278
(22:48) * PW Winning combination score: -3 team difference, -0.71 elo, 21.03 composition. Win chance 52%
(22:49) (GENCO)Hellaciouss: great teams
(22:49) Karotte joined the battle.
(22:49) * PW http://zero-k.info/PW
(22:49) * PW Karotte this is competetive PW campaign server. Join a clan to conquer the galaxy http://zero-k.info/PW/ClanList
(22:49) (I)burp: !predict
(22:49) * PW team 2 has 49% chance to win over team 1
(22:49) * PW team 1 has 77% chance to win over team 3
(22:49) * PW team 3 has 36% chance to win over team 4
(22:49) (EI)Skasi: gaah not this map
(22:50) (EI)Skasi: pick something that hurts less
(22:50) (FL)IonStorm: last game noone had the intelligece to choose air
(22:50) * PW Winning combination score: 0 team difference, -1.32 elo, 21.69 composition. Win chance 54%
(22:50) (FL)IonStorm: that's really bad
(22:50) (EI)Skasi: last game everybody was stupid enough to press ready, (FL)IonStorm, that was the problem
(22:50) (GENCO)Hellaciouss: lol
(22:50) (TUPM)TheDarkStar: !ring
(22:50) * PW ringing Karotte,
(22:50) Karotte: Waiting for 2 players. Spec me with !specafk if you want to play with less.
(22:50) * Karotte Map download progress: 55%
(22:51) (GENCO)Hellaciouss: pw balance ftw!
(22:51) M114 left the battle( ).
(22:51) (EI)Odin: !start
(22:51) * PW cannot start, Karotte not ready and synced
(22:51) (EI)Skasi: had half my stupid team not readied, but waited for me to tell them what to do before doing so, we might'a won
(22:51) (I)burp: still everyone plays PW
(22:51) (I)burp: so it can't be so bad
(22:51) Karotte: why are am always playing agianst ionstorm? :-/
(22:51) (EI)Odin: !ring
(22:51) * PW ringing Karotte,
(22:51) Karotte: Waiting for 2 players. Spec me with !specafk if you want to play with less.
(22:51) * Karotte Map download progress: 81%
(22:51) (EI)Skasi: I was waiting in the non-pw game, burp, nobody was joining
(22:51) (EI)Skasi: yes pw is so bad
(22:51) (EI)Godde left the battle( ).
(22:52) (PinK)Pizdostradalec: !start
(22:52) * PW Winning combination score: -3 team difference, -2.68 elo, 18.37 composition. Win chance 58%
(22:52) * PW please wait, game is about to start
(22:52) (EI)Skasi: fu I wont play this
(22:53) PW: ((EI)Odin)Exit we are 6 vs 8
(22:53) (EI)Godde joined the battle.
(22:53) * PW http://zero-k.info/PW
(22:53) * PW GAME IS CURRENTLY IN PROGRESS, PLEASE WAIT TILL IT ENDS! Running for 00:01:10
(22:53) * PW If you say !notify, I will PM you when game ends.
(22:53) * PW Greetings (EI)Godde of (EI), welcome to (TUPM)(GBC)Praetor planet Simiadha http://zero-k.info/PW/Planet/2278
(22:53) * PW Do you want to exit this game? !vote 1

yes, !vote 2

no
(22:53) PW: ((EI)Odin)!exit
(22:53) * PW option 1 has 1 of 9 votes
(22:53) PW: ((EI)Odin)!vote 1
(22:53) (EI)Skasi: !vote 1
(22:53) * PW option 1 has 2 of 9 votes
(22:53) PW: ((GENCO)Hellaciouss)so?
(22:53) * PW option 1 has 3 of 9 votes
(22:53) PW: (Karotte)!vote 1
(22:53) PW: ((IUSP)Blaise)Why?
(22:53) * PW option 2 has 1 of 9 votes
(22:53) PW: ((IUSP)Blaise)!vote 2
(22:53) PW: ((GENCO)Hellaciouss)you have the #1 player and #6 player
(22:53) * PW option 2 has 2 of 9 votes
(22:53) PW: ((GENCO)Hellaciouss)!vote 2
(22:53) PW: (Karotte)why? unfair teams maby?
(22:54) PW: ((IUSP)sheep)where are the other?
(22:54) PW: ((EI)Odin)Godde left and so Ion
(22:54) PW: ((IUSP)Blaise)How unfair teams?
(22:54) (EI)Skasi: No we don't, (GENCO)Hellaciouss, what the fucking shit are you talking about?
(22:54) * PW option 1 has 4 of 9 votes
(22:54) PW: ((IUSP)Blaise)!vote 1
(22:54) * PW option 1 has 4 of 9 votes
(22:54) PW: ((EI)Odin)!vote 1
(22:54) * PW option 2 has 2 of 9 votes
(22:54) PW: ((TUPM)TheDarkStar)!vote 2
(22:54) * PW option 2 has 3 of 9 votes
(22:54) PW: ((IUSP)Blaise)!vote 2
(22:54) (DOOP)SFireMan left the battle( ).
(22:54) PW: ((I)burp)what is the vote for?
(22:54) PW: ((TUPM)TheDarkStar)Exiting
(22:54) (EI)Skasi: Exiting the game.
(22:54) PW: ((IUSP)sheep)to burp or not to burp
(22:54) PW: ((GENCO)Hellaciouss)yah cry about balance when it doesn't favor you
(22:54) (GENCO)Hellaciouss: Waiting for 2 players. Spec me with !specafk if you want to play with less.
(22:54) PW: ((I)burp)!vote 1
(22:54) * PW Do you want to exit this game? !vote 1

yes, !vote 2

no
(22:54) PW: ((EI)Odin)!exit
(22:54) * PW option 1 has 1 of 8 votes
(22:54) PW: ((EI)Odin)!vote 1
(22:54) * PW option 1 has 2 of 8 votes
(22:54) PW: ((EI)Skasi)!vote 1
(22:54) * PW option 1 has 3 of 8 votes
(22:54) PW: ((I)burp)!vote 1
(22:54) * PW ringing
(22:54) PW: ((TUPM)TheDarkStar)!ring fire
(22:54) * PW option 1 has 4 of 8 votes
(22:54) PW: ((EI)Thograsm)!vote 1
(22:54) (GENCO)Hellaciouss: Waiting for 2 players. Spec me with !specafk if you want to play with less.
(22:54) * PW option 2 has 1 of 8 votes
(22:54) PW: ((TUPM)TheDarkStar)!vote 2
(22:54) PW: ((IUSP)sheep)now it's balanced
(22:55) PW: ((EI)Thograsm)because u were force speced
(22:55) * PW option 1 has 5 of 8 votes
(22:55) PW: ((FL)IonStorm)!vote 1
(22:55) * PW option 2 has 1 of 8 votes
(22:55) PW: ((TUPM)TheDarkStar)!vote 2
(22:55) * PW option 2 has 2 of 8 votes
(22:55) PW: ((GENCO)Hellaciouss)!vote 2
(22:55) PW: ((TUPM)TheDarkStar)Vote 2 please
(22:55) * PW option 1 has 5 of 8 votes
(22:55) PW: ((I)burp)!vote 1
(22:55) * PW option 2 has 2 of 8 votes
(22:55) PW: ((TUPM)TheDarkStar)!vote 2
(22:55) PW: ((GENCO)Hellaciouss)rofl
(22:55) * PW option 1 has 5 of 8 votes
(22:55) PW: ((EI)Odin)!vote 1
(22:55) * PW option 1 has 6 of 8 votes
(22:55) PW: ((PinK)Pizdostradalec)!vote 1
(22:55) * PW option 1 has 6 of 8 votes
(22:55) PW: ((I)burp)!vote 1
(22:55) * PW vote successful - force exiting
(22:55) * PW exiting game
(22:56) (TUPM)TheDarkStar: :(
(22:56) (GENCO)Hellaciouss: it's funny how when I am on team with 2-3 people down the other team just say take and stfu and play
(22:56) (GENCO)Hellaciouss: it's really curious how that all works out
(22:56) (EI)Skasi: Now dont start like stupid when there aint proper teams please, (PinK)Pizdostradalec
(22:56) (EI)Odin: yeah right you are so fair hella
(22:56) NonOfSense left the battle( ).
(22:56) (EI)Godde: !balance
(22:56) * PW Sorry, you do not have rights to execute balance
(22:56) (GENCO)Hellaciouss: yah
(22:56) * PW changing map to Grts_DesertValley_012
(22:56) * PW Welcome to (IUSP)DanteLorel planet Taros http://zero-k.info/PW/Planet/2194
(22:56) * PW Winning combination score: -3.31 team difference, -3.15 elo, 16.4 composition. Win chance 59%
(22:57) (EI)Skasi: yippee
(22:57) (I)burp: all just jerking off on their ELO and exp increase :P
(22:57) (PinK)Pizdostradalec: ((((((((((((
(22:57) (IUSP)sheep: it just took time for some to show up... but it was 6vs7 in the end... any one want to split itself?
(22:57) (GENCO)Hellaciouss: and are you going to complain about balance now that godde and skasi are on your team?
(22:57) (EI)Skasi: I don't care for elo or exp, I just want a proper game, burp. ;)
(22:57) (I)burp: ok
(22:57) (GENCO)Hellaciouss: !start
(22:57) * PW cannot start, (IUSP)Blaise not ready and synced
(22:57) (GENCO)Hellaciouss: !ring
(22:57) * PW ringing (IUSP)Blaise,
(22:57) * (IUSP)Blaise is not downloading map with SL torrent system
(22:57) (GENCO)Hellaciouss: fuckin niggers use the damn torrent
(22:58) (GENCO)Hellaciouss: !spec blaise
(22:58) * PW Sorry, you do not have rights to execute spec
(22:58) * PW Do you want to spectate (IUSP)Blaise? !vote 1

yes, !vote 2

no
(22:58) (EI)Skasi: Hella: Godde fails and I'll complain whenever I gotta play for more than two people.
(22:58) (IUSP)Blaise: 1 sec
(22:58) (GENCO)Hellaciouss: !vote 1
(22:58) * PW option 1 has 1 of 7 votes
(22:58) (IUSP)sheep: now 8vs5... i'm sure we can do better...
(22:58) (IUSP)Blaise: !vote 2
(22:58) * PW option 2 has 1 of 7 votes
(22:58) (I)szmadar: torrent works on luinux?
(22:58) (TUPM)TheDarkStar: !vote 2
(22:58) * PW option 2 has 2 of 7 votes
(22:58) (I)burp: (I)szmadar yes
(22:58) (PinK)Pizdostradalec: !vote 1
(22:58) * PW option 1 has 2 of 7 votes
(22:58) * PW Winning combination score: -3.31 team difference, -3.15 elo, 16.28 composition. Win chance 59%
(22:58) (TUPM)TheDarkStar: !ring
(22:58) * PW ringing (IUSP)Blaise,
(22:58) * (IUSP)Blaise is not downloading map with SL torrent system
(22:58) (IUSP)Blaise: 1 sec
(22:58) (I)szmadar: i dont have got that option
(22:58) (IUSP)sheep: (I)szmadar ETA?
(22:58) (I)burp: (I)szmadar you had debian, right?
(22:58) (I)szmadar: yes
(22:59) (I)burp: (I)szmadar the debian build sadly doesn't include the torrent support
(22:59) (PinK)Pizdostradalec: !start
(22:59) * PW please wait, game is about to start
(22:59) (EI)Skasi: geez
(22:59) (I)burp: I had to compile springlobby myself to include it
(22:59) (EI)Skasi: fuck you stupid (PinK)Pizdostradalec moron
(23:00) (EI)Skasi: And Odin for speccing. :P
(23:01) PW: ((TUPM)TheDarkStar)Ready Skasi?
(23:01) PW: ((EI)Skasi)Lemme pick a spot
(23:04) PW: ((GENCO)Hellaciouss)fuck yolu godde
(23:07) PW: ((EI)Thograsm)yay auto tatrget
(23:08) PW: ((GENCO)Hellaciouss)yay idiots who rambo coms
(23:08) PW: ((EI)Thograsm)ur a faggit and u dont even deny it
(23:08) PW: ((EI)Thograsm)thats the best part
(23:09) PW: ((GENCO)Hellaciouss)cry more
(23:09) PW: ((GENCO)Hellaciouss)your imba com didn't save you that time
(23:09) PW: ((GENCO)Hellaciouss)try again next match
(23:10) (DOOP)fortaleza joined the battle.
(23:10) * PW http://zero-k.info/PW
(23:10) * PW GAME IS CURRENTLY IN PROGRESS, PLEASE WAIT TILL IT ENDS! Running for 00:10:56
(23:10) * PW If you say !notify, I will PM you when game ends.
(23:10) * PW Greetings (DOOP)fortaleza of DOOP, welcome to (IUSP)DanteLorel planet Taros http://zero-k.info/PW/Planet/2194
(23:10) PW: ((EI)Skasi)This is such crap.. exactly when I press J for jump the game freezes for two secons
(23:10) PW: ((I)burp)tupm is idle
(23:10) PW: ((I)burp)tupm?
(23:10) PW: ((I)burp)are you here?
(23:10) PW: ((TUPM)TheDarkStar)Yes?
(23:10) * PW ringing (TUPM)TheDarkStar,
(23:10) PW: ((GENCO)Hellaciouss)!ring the
(23:10) PW: ((I)burp)never mind
(23:20) PW: ((EI)Skasi)I just now realized what unbalanced shit this map is
(23:20) PW: ((EI)Thograsm)no shit?
(23:20) PW: ((EI)Skasi)bottom left has ten times more hills to build windgenfarms on
(23:21) (IUSP)Fatmouse joined the battle.
(23:21) * PW http://zero-k.info/PW
(23:21) * PW GAME IS CURRENTLY IN PROGRESS, PLEASE WAIT TILL IT ENDS! Running for 00:22:18
(23:21) * PW If you say !notify, I will PM you when game ends.
(23:21) * PW Greetings (IUSP)Fatmouse of IUSP, welcome to (IUSP)DanteLorel planet Taros http://zero-k.info/PW/Planet/2194
(23:21) PW: (Fainth)how important is that
(23:22) PW: ((FL)IonStorm)plss remove screamer
(23:22) PW: ((EI)Skasi)very important
(23:22) PW: ((EI)Thograsm)i have never been able to beat spider spam its imba
(23:22) PW: ((EI)Skasi)well no wait, not important at all.. cause it seems people northeast dont even know there are windgens... eh sheep? :)
(23:22) PW: ((EI)Thograsm)there is no easy counter
(23:22) PW: ((EI)Skasi)jumpers, Thograsm
(23:23) PW: ((EI)Skasi)spiders dont have any artillery
(23:23) PW: ((EI)Skasi)so you just spam fireballs at them
(23:23) PW: ((EI)Thograsm)but arty sucks like hell in this mod
(23:23) PW: ((EI)Skasi)nah
(23:23) PW: ((EI)Skasi)you just skirm spiders to death
(23:23) PW: ((EI)Skasi)well it turns a bit slow, but who cares
(23:24) PW: ((EI)Skasi)(EI)Thograsm you might now know, but your crabe takes 3x damage when moving
(23:24) PW: ((EI)Thograsm)i wasnt even looking at it when it died
(23:24) PW: ((EI)Skasi)oi
(23:24) PW: ((EI)Thograsm)like everythingt else in this game
(23:24) PW: ((EI)Skasi)hehe
(23:24) PW: ((EI)Skasi)well you at least have enough fps to look at things X)
(23:24) PW: ((EI)Thograsm)zz
(23:24) PW: ((GENCO)Hellaciouss)zzzzz
(23:24) PW: ((EI)Thograsm)this map is shit
(23:24) PW: ((EI)Skasi)come on, resign already
(23:24) PW: ((GENCO)Hellaciouss)haha
(23:25) PW: (Fainth)is there a hotkey to stop whatever a lab is doing ??
(23:25) PW: ((GENCO)Hellaciouss)still mad you lost your com to para drones and light gunship
(23:25) PW: ((EI)Thograsm)no but u admiteted earlier that the units u spam are OP
(23:25) PW: ((EI)Thograsm)people who do that i think are low shit
(23:26) PW: ((EI)Skasi)sadly dont know of one, Fainth
(23:26) PW: ((EI)Skasi)maybe do a ticket for that :)
(23:26) PW: (Fainth)no shit thers no 'stop all' button !?!
(23:26) PW: ((EI)Skasi)nope
(23:26) PW: ((FL)IonStorm)bomb drones against screamer
(23:26) PW: ((GENCO)Hellaciouss)you can hotkey a lab
(23:26) PW: (Fainth)yeah
(23:26) PW: ((GENCO)Hellaciouss)and make it stop that wa
(23:27) PW: (Fainth)but i dont want it to wait i want it to break its queue and stop
(23:27) PW: ((EI)Skasi) just told you :)
(23:28) PW: ((EI)Skasi)Fainth, sheep: CTRL A CTRL D
(23:28) PW: ((EI)Skasi)or shift+escape -: resign
(23:28) PW: ((EI)Thograsm)he doesnt even know how to do ctrl
(23:28) PW: ((EI)Skasi)escape -: red X -: resign
(23:28) PW: ((EI)Skasi)Blaise too, I forgot
(23:29) PW: ((I)burp)lets find the fleas
(23:29) PW: ((EI)Skasi)come on Blaise
(23:30) hammergil joined the battle.
(23:30) * PW http://zero-k.info/PW
(23:30) * PW GAME IS CURRENTLY IN PROGRESS, PLEASE WAIT TILL IT ENDS! Running for 00:30:57
(23:30) * PW If you say !notify, I will PM you when game ends.
(23:30) * PW hammergil this is competetive PW campaign server. Join a clan to conquer the galaxy http://zero-k.info/PW/ClanList
(23:30) PW: ((EI)Skasi)5200 / 1600
(23:30) PW: ((EI)Skasi)gogo noops
(23:30) PW: ((EI)Skasi)5200 / 1600
(23:30) PW: ((EI)Thograsm)boohoo
(23:30) PW: ((EI)Thograsm)fix ur mod and cloak costs
(23:30) PW: ((EI)Thograsm)or kick everyone
(23:30) PW: ((EI)Skasi)go ahead
(23:30) hammergil: !notify
(23:30) * PW I will notify you when game ends
(23:30) PW: ((EI)Skasi)awww
(23:31) PW: ((EI)Skasi)why is there no more doesnotcount
(23:31) PW: ((EI)Thograsm)there is
(23:31) PW: ((EI)Thograsm)but its only used for mines
(23:31) PW: ((EI)Skasi)Doesnt it include fleas? o.O
(23:31) PW: ((EI)Skasi)Hellacious, where your gunships are, theres 3 fleas
(23:31) PW: ((EI)Skasi)oi
(23:31) PW: ((EI)Skasi)one left
(23:31) PW: ((EI)Skasi)bottom right
(23:31) * PW Do you want to kick (IUSP)Blaise? !vote 1

yes, !vote 2

no
(23:31) PW: ((EI)Skasi)!kick Blaise
(23:31) PW: ((EI)Thograsm)move bandits south
(23:31) * PW option 2 has 1 of 9 votes
(23:31) PW: ((EI)Thograsm)!vote 2
(23:32) PW: ((EI)Skasi)10000/10000
(23:32) PW: ((EI)Thograsm)burp
(23:32) PW: ((EI)Thograsm)move bandits up hill
(23:32) * PW option 1 has 1 of 9 votes
(23:32) PW: ((EI)Skasi)!vote 1
(23:32) PW: ((EI)Thograsm)no
(23:32) PW: ((EI)Thograsm)other way
(23:32) PW: ((EI)Thograsm)the lower hill
(23:32) PW: ((EI)Thograsm)n the corner
(23:32) PW: ((EI)Thograsm)dumbassses
(23:32) PW: ((EI)Skasi)10000/10000
(23:32) PW: ((EI)Thograsm)follow instructions
(23:32) PW: ((EI)Skasi)lern 2 read coordinates
(23:32) PW: ((EI)Thograsm)tter
(23:32) PW: ((EI)Thograsm)HOT
(23:32) PW: ((I)burp)I don't see coordinates
(23:32) PW: ((EI)Thograsm)got em
(23:33) PW: ((I)burp)and now I have 1 fps
(23:33) PW: ((EI)Skasi)hold down space with no units selected to see coordinates
(23:33) PW: ((I)burp)ah I see
(23:33) PW: ((EI)Skasi)just kick him already
(23:33) PW: ((EI)Skasi)he is afk
(23:33) PW: ((EI)Thograsm)!vote 2
(23:33) * PW Do you want to kick (IUSP)Blaise? !vote 1

yes, !vote 2

no
(23:33) PW: ((I)burp)!kick blaise
(23:33) * PW option 2 has 1 of 8 votes
(23:33) PW: ((EI)Thograsm)!vote 2
(23:33) * PW option 1 has 1 of 8 votes
(23:33) PW: ((EI)Skasi)!vote 1
(23:33) * PW option 1 has 2 of 8 votes
(23:33) PW: ((I)burp)!vote 1
(23:33) PW: ((GENCO)Hellaciouss)!vote 11
(23:33) * PW option 2 has 2 of 8 votes
(23:33) PW: ((PinK)Pizdostradalec)!vote 2
(23:33) * PW Game over, exiting
(23:33) PW: ((I)burp)why would youvote 2?
(23:33) PW: (Karotte)vote 2
(23:33) Fainth left the battle( ).
(23:33) * PW Battle on http://zero-k.info/PW/Planet/2194 has ended
(23:33) * PW (GENCO)Hellaciouss got 139 (+54 from techs ) influence at Taros
(23:33) * PW (I)burp got 112 (+27 from techs ) influence at Taros
(23:33) * PW (I)szmadar got 812 (+27 from techs +700 from ships) influence at Taros
(23:33) * PW (FL)IonStorm got 205 (+120 from techs ) influence at Taros
(23:33) * PW (TUPM)TheDarkStar got 181 (+96 from techs ) influence at Taros
(23:33) * PW Congratulations!! Planet Taros was conquered by (I)szmadar !! http://zero-k.info/PW/Planet/2194
(23:33) * PW Congratulations (I)szmadar! You just leveled up to level 32. http://zero-k.info/Users/(I)szmadar
(23:33) * PW View full battle details and demo at http://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/10709
(23:33) * PW changing map to FrozenFortress_v2
(23:33) * PW Welcome to (TUPM)(GBC)Praetor planet Simiadha http://zero-k.info/PW/Planet/2278
(23:34) (TUPM)TheDarkStar: Crashed?
(23:34) (EI)Thograsm: because its a mid issue not the player
(23:34) (EI)Skasi: Go fix it, (EI)Thograsm.
(23:34) (IUSP)Blaise: gg
(23:34) * PW Winning combination score: 0 team difference, -4.2 elo, 21.79 composition. Win chance 62%
(23:34) (TUPM)TheDarkStar: Yeah
(23:34) Karotte left the battle( ).
(23:34) (TUPM)TheDarkStar: !ring
(23:34) * PW ringing hammergil,
(23:34) * hammergil downloading map eta: 27 s
(23:35) (FL)IonStorm: !ring
(23:35) * PW ringing hammergil,
(23:35) * hammergil map is not available for automatic downloading.
(23:35) * hammergil is not downloading map with SL torrent system
(23:35) (EI)Skasi: Anybody knows whether there's a way to get a list of all planets and sort them eg. by starships, influence, etc?
(23:35) (EI)Epicock joined the battle.
(23:35) * PW http://zero-k.info/PW
(23:35) * PW Greetings (EI)Epicock of (EI), welcome to (TUPM)(GBC)Praetor planet Simiadha http://zero-k.info/PW/Planet/2278
(23:36) * PW Winning combination score: -3.31 team difference, -9.06 elo, 20.68 composition. Win chance 74%
(23:36) (GENCO)Hellaciouss: oh yay fucky is here
(23:36) (EI)Epicock: why do you insist on calling me that
(23:36) (EI)Epicock: everyone love that name so much
(23:36) (TUPM)TheDarkStar: !ring
(23:36) * PW ringing
(23:37) (GENCO)Hellaciouss: cause you're a fucktard and it sounds right describing you
(23:37) (TUPM)TheDarkStar: Start?
(23:37) (EI)Epicock: so send dropships?
(23:37) (GENCO)Hellaciouss: if I were to guess
(23:37) (TUPM)TheDarkStar: Starting
(23:37) (GENCO)Hellaciouss: LEEEEEEEEROOOY
(23:37) (GENCO)Hellaciouss: !start
(23:37) * PW please wait, game is about to start
(23:37) (EI)Skasi: noooooooo
(23:37) (EI)Skasi: fuck you aaaaaaaall
(23:37) (EI)Skasi: seriously
(23:38) (EI)Skasi: I wont play 1) with these teams and 2) on this map with these teams
(23:39) (EI)Skasi: and 3) not with my fps on this map with these teams
(23:39) PW: ((GENCO)Hellaciouss)?
(23:39) PW: ((EI)Skasi)? what?
(23:39) PW: ((GENCO)Hellaciouss)it's 6v7 and you have #1 and #6 players + we have complete noob
(23:39) (I)burp left the battle( ).
(23:39) PW: ((GENCO)Hellaciouss)why are you complaing?
(23:39) (GENCO)Hellaciouss: Waiting for 2 players. Spec me with !specafk if you want to play with less.
(23:39) (EI)Epicock: Waiting for 2 players. Spec me with !specafk if you want to play with less.
(23:39) (IUSP)Fatmouse: Waiting for 2 players. Spec me with !specafk if you want to play with less.
(23:40) PW: ((EI)Epicock)and #19 player
(23:40) PW: ((EI)Skasi)my last two games were 6v7s, I dont give a shit about the elo
(23:40) PW: ((EI)Epicock)and #22
(23:40) (EI)Epicock: Waiting for 2 players. Spec me with !specafk if you want to play with less.
(23:40) (IUSP)Fatmouse: Waiting for 2 players. Spec me with !specafk if you want to play with less.
(23:40) PW: ((EI)Epicock)thog
(23:40) PW: ((EI)Epicock)why arent you loading
(23:40) (EI)Epicock: Waiting for 2 players. Spec me with !specafk if you want to play with less.
(23:40) * PW ringing (EI)Thograsm,
(23:40) PW: ((TUPM)TheDarkStar)!ring thog
(23:40) PW: ((EI)Skasi)hmm maybe changing settings increased the performance now
(23:40) PW: ((EI)Skasi)oh wait, I forgot..
(23:40) (EI)Epicock: Waiting for 2 players. Spec me with !specafk if you want to play with less.
(23:40) PW: ((EI)Skasi)theres a way to make this map darker!!
(23:41) (EI)Epicock: Waiting for 2 players. Spec me with !specafk if you want to play with less.
(23:41) PW: ((EI)Odin)26 seconds
(23:41) * PW ringing (PinK)Pizdostradalec,
(23:41) PW: ((TUPM)TheDarkStar)!ring piz
(23:41) PW: ((FL)IonStorm)change your monitor settings to make it darker
(23:41) (EI)Epicock: Waiting for 2 players. Spec me with !specafk if you want to play with less.
(23:41) PW: ((EI)Skasi)If this map is too bright for anybody: /darkening .1
(23:41) PW: ((EI)Epicock)we wil lose without thograsm
(23:42) (TUPM)stocky joined the battle.
(23:42) * PW http://zero-k.info/PW
(23:42) * PW GAME IS CURRENTLY IN PROGRESS, PLEASE WAIT TILL IT ENDS! Running for 00:04:21
(23:42) * PW If you say !notify, I will PM you when game ends.
(23:42) * PW Greetings (TUPM)stocky of TUPM, welcome to (TUPM)(GBC)Praetor planet Simiadha http://zero-k.info/PW/Planet/2278
(23:42) (TUPM)stocky: whats the eta ?
(23:42) PW: ((EI)Epicock)u kidding me?
(23:42) PW: ((EI)Skasi)woot woot?
(23:42) PW: ((TUPM)TheDarkStar)?
(23:42) (TUPM)stocky: !notify
(23:42) * PW I will notify you when game ends
(23:44) PW: ((GENCO)Hellaciouss)flea spam once again
(23:44) PW: ((EI)Epicock)whining once again
(23:45) PW: ((FL)IonStorm)WHO take?
(23:47) PW: ((EI)Epicock)oh my god this pathing
(23:52) (PinK)Pizdostradalec left the battle( ).
(23:53) PW: ((EI)Epicock)ownt
(23:53) PW: ((FL)IonStorm)shit weapon
(23:55) PW: ((FL)IonStorm)WTF
(23:55) PW: ((EI)Epicock)ownt
(23:55) PW: ((EI)Epicock)U MAD?
(23:56) (EI)Thograsm left the battle( ).
(23:57) PW: ((EI)Skasi)5fps :O
(23:57) PW: ((EI)Epicock)nice com
(23:57) PW: ((EI)Epicock)well it was
(23:57) PW: ((GENCO)Hellaciouss)look how bad jethros are lol
(23:58) PW: ((GENCO)Hellaciouss)take about 10 jethros to kill a bomber over 10 seconds
(23:58) PW: ((GENCO)Hellaciouss)if it's sitting on the ground
(23:59) PW: ((EI)Epicock)well
(23:59) PW: ((EI)Epicock)i made a com that can kill lichos
(23:59) PW: ((EI)Epicock)i think thats pretty good achievement
(23:59) (IUSP)Fatmouse left the battle( ).
(00:00) PW: ((EI)Epicock)rofl
(00:00) PW: ((EI)Epicock)so taht come i killed with peewees
(00:00) PW: ((EI)Epicock)it was a level 4 com
(00:01) PW: ((EI)Epicock)DONT FUCK WITH SPEED ION RETARD
(00:02) PW: ((FL)IonStorm)no 96 rez
(00:02) PW: ((EI)Skasi)well he's right.. so resign already :)
(00:02) PW: ((FL)IonStorm)bomb my fab
(00:02) PW: ((EI)Skasi)aww only 25 of my builders are busy.. o.O
(00:02) PW: ((EI)Skasi)*
(00:02) PW: ((EI)Skasi)25%*
(00:02) PW: ((GENCO)Hellaciouss)and to think skasi cried about being down a man
(00:03) PW: ((EI)Epicock)yeah
(00:03) PW: ((EI)Epicock)thograsm is an important member
(00:03) PW: ((GENCO)Hellaciouss)you SHOULD be facing 2 people each (godde and skasi)
(00:03) PW: ((EI)Epicock)it wasno where near as fun without him
(00:03) PW: ((EI)Skasi)nah Hella
(00:03) PW: ((GENCO)Hellaciouss)bottom right corner.....
(00:03) PW: ((EI)Skasi)I didnt know I would be able to spawn in the rear alone, Hella
(00:04) PW: ((FL)IonStorm)lol
(00:04) PW: ((EI)Epicock)needs more emp
(00:04) * PW Game over, exiting
(00:04) (I)szmadar left the battle( ).
(00:04) * PW Battle on http://zero-k.info/PW/Planet/2278 has ended
(00:04) * PW (EI)Odin got 841 (+21 from techs +750 from ships) influence at Simiadha
(00:04) * PW (EI)Thograsm got 91 (+21 from techs ) influence at Simiadha
(00:04) * PW (EI)Skasi got 91 (+21 from techs ) influence at Simiadha
(00:04) * PW (TUPM)TheDarkStar got 360 (+96 from techs -6 from domination +200 from ships) influence at Simiadha
(00:04) * PW (EI)Godde got 91 (+21 from techs ) influence at Simiadha
(00:04) * PW (EI)Epicock got 241 (+21 from techs +150 from ships) influence at Simiadha
(00:04) * PW Congratulations!! Planet Simiadha was conquered by (EI)Odin !! http://zero-k.info/PW/Planet/2278
(00:04) * PW View full battle details and demo at http://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/10711
(00:04) (TUPM)stocky: Waiting for 2 players. Spec me with !specafk if you want to play with less.
(00:04) * PW changing map to Greenhaven_Remake-v01
(00:04) * PW Welcome to (DOOP)Rafal planet Fist of the Union http://zero-k.info/PW/Planet/2270
(00:05) (TUPM)TheDarkStar: gg
(00:05) (EI)Epicock: well that was kind of a fucking awesome game
(00:05) (EI)Epicock: i killed 2 lichos and countless other bombers
(00:05) (EI)Godde left the battle( ).
(00:05) (EI)Epicock: with my com and a hacksaw
(00:05) (FL)IonStorm: you have a shit com epo
(00:05) (EI)Epicock: licho haters rejoice
(00:05) (GENCO)Hellaciouss: grats
(00:05) (teh)Exit_Wound joined the battle.
(00:05) * PW http://zero-k.info/PW
(00:05) * PW Greetings (teh)Exit_Wound of teh, welcome to (DOOP)Rafal planet Fist of the Union http://zero-k.info/PW/Planet/2270
(00:05) (EI)Epicock: ion for being such shit
(00:06) (FL)IonStorm: it shouldn't be able to kill one stunner and licho at once
(00:06) (GENCO)Hellaciouss: i think i here a cricket cheering for you somewhere
(00:06) (EI)Epicock: you couldnt kill it with 2 lichos
(00:06) * PW Winning combination score: 0 team difference, -1.94 elo, 14.9 composition. Win chance 56%
(00:06) (EI)Epicock: lol
(00:06) (EI)Epicock: ion that means its good
(00:06) (EI)Epicock: not shit
(00:06) (EI)Epicock: :)
(00:06) (EI)Skasi: geez I capped like.. 80% of the mexes there were :O
(00:06) (FL)IonStorm: it's a fucking com
(00:06) (TUPM)TheDarkStar: !ring
(00:06) * PW ringing
(00:06) (TUPM)TheDarkStar: !start
(00:06) (TUPM)stocky left the battle( ).
(00:06) * PW please wait, game is about to start
(00:07) PW: ((EI)Epicock)i dont like this map
(00:07) PW: ((GENCO)Hellaciouss)so leave
(00:07) PW: ((EI)Epicock)green with little lumps of pudding everywhere
(00:07) (EI)Skasi: nah this map is fine
(00:08) (EI)Skasi: you can make epic use of the hills with raiders to stay out of radar coverage
(00:08) * PW ringing (EI)Skasi,
(00:08) PW: ((TUPM)TheDarkStar)!ring skasi
(00:08) * PW ringing PW, (IUSP)sheep, (GENCO)Hellaciouss, (FL)IonStorm, (EI)Skasi, (TUPM)TheDarkStar, (IUSP)Blaise,
(00:08) PW: ((TUPM)TheDarkStar)!ring s
(00:08) (GENCO)Hellaciouss: Waiting for 2 players. Spec me with !specafk if you want to play with less.
(00:08) (GENCO)Hellaciouss: Waiting for 2 players. Spec me with !specafk if you want to play with less.
(00:08) (EI)Epicock: Waiting for 2 players. Spec me with !specafk if you want to play with less.
(00:09) (EI)Epicock: Waiting for 2 players. Spec me with !specafk if you want to play with less.
(00:09) (EI)Skasi: hmm
(00:09) (EI)Epicock: Waiting for 2 players. Spec me with !specafk if you want to play with less.
(00:09) (EI)Skasi: didn't I spec fast enough?
(00:09) facio joined the battle.
(00:09) * PW http://zero-k.info/PW
(00:09) * PW GAME IS CURRENTLY IN PROGRESS, PLEASE WAIT TILL IT ENDS! Running for 00:02:50
(00:09) * PW If you say !notify, I will PM you when game ends.
(00:09) * PW facio this is competetive PW campaign server. Join a clan to conquer the galaxy http://zero-k.info/PW/ClanList
(00:09) (EI)Epicock: Waiting for 2 players. Spec me with !specafk if you want to play with less.
(00:09) (EI)Skasi: Oh well I cant play anyway.
(00:10) (EI)Epicock: Waiting for 2 players. Spec me with !specafk if you want to play with less.
(00:10) PW: ((EI)Epicock)skasi
(00:10) (EI)Epicock: Waiting for 2 players. Spec me with !specafk if you want to play with less.
(00:10) * PW ringing (EI)Skasi,
(00:10) PW: ((EI)Odin)!ring sk
(00:11) * PW Do you want to exit this game? !vote 1

yes, !vote 2

no
(00:11) PW: ((IUSP)Blaise)!exit
(00:11) * PW option 1 has 1 of 5 votes
(00:11) PW: ((IUSP)Blaise)!vote 1
(00:11) * PW option 2 has 1 of 5 votes
(00:11) PW: ((GENCO)Hellaciouss)!vote 2
(00:11) * PW option 2 has 2 of 5 votes
(00:11) PW: ((TUPM)TheDarkStar)!vote 2
(00:11) PW: ((FL)IonStorm)why?
(00:11) PW: ((GENCO)Hellaciouss)fuck you...
(00:11) * PW option 2 has 3 of 5 votes
(00:11) PW: ((DOOP)fortaleza)!vote 2
(00:11) PW: ((IUSP)Blaise)two of our players have dropped
(00:11) PW: ((EI)Epicock)dropped?
(00:11) PW: ((EI)Epicock)we were kicked
(00:11) PW: ((GENCO)Hellaciouss)so you're down by 1 take and go
(00:11) PW: ((EI)Epicock)all we need to do
(00:11) PW: ((EI)Epicock)is wait for skazi
(00:11) (EI)Skasi: !predict
(00:11) * PW team 1 has 35% chance to win over team 2
(00:11) PW: ((EI)Epicock)ofc the troll wants a free planet
(00:11) (EI)Skasi: I dont join, Cock
(00:11) facio left the battle( ).
(00:12) PW: ((IUSP)Blaise)!kick Hellaciouss
(00:12) PW: ((EI)Odin)wait for our team mare
(00:12) PW: ((EI)Epicock)why arent you joining?
(00:12) PW: ((IUSP)Blaise)For unpausing
(00:12) * PW option 2 has 3 of 5 votes
(00:12) PW: ((DOOP)fortaleza)!vote 2
(00:12) * PW option 2 has 4 of 5 votes
(00:12) PW: ((IUSP)Blaise)!vote 2
(00:12) (IUSP)Lancelan joined the battle.
(00:12) * PW http://zero-k.info/PW
(00:12) * PW GAME IS CURRENTLY IN PROGRESS, PLEASE WAIT TILL IT ENDS! Running for 00:05:19
(00:12) * PW If you say !notify, I will PM you when game ends.
(00:12) * PW Greetings (IUSP)Lancelan of IUSP, welcome to (DOOP)Rafal planet Fist of the Union http://zero-k.
+0 / -0

USranko_o
12 years ago
this caught my attention because it had my name... but i dont understand what the point of it is.. its chatlog tldr....

and in PW you get balanced with your clan. if there are 4 EI members and 4 other players, it will be EI vs, regardless of elo, unless the calculated win chance exceeds some particular number, which i think is 85%
+0 / -0
Skasi
12 years ago
If you want better balance, IonStorm, I suggest you to not play PW, but regular games. They do not use clan-balance.
Anyway, there's not godde + 3 EI clan members (cause that'd be four EI players), there's just two EI members.

The problem in this battle was the low reliability of many players. Springie should probably try to not only balance elo, but also to balance reliability. That would decrease the elo-balance making games less fair, but would instead make for less surprise inside a team. Anyway.

In future - that is once ZK has 50+ players participating/waiting for a battle - rooms might be split up into different reliability ones, so that problem'd be solved. Right now the only way to solve this problem is manual balance, which only works if you know a players elo better than Springie.
+0 / -0
12 years ago
I just saw a balance where Godde and the #10 player were on a team of 5 against a team of 3 with a new person. Balance fail.
+0 / -0
12 years ago
DarkSTar - EXACTLY. It happens so freakin often it's pathetic. It needs to be the opposite. Godde and other high ranking players should be on the team with less + have the noobs, yet right now it's the complete opposites, all the complete noobs are clumped together vs them while the "good" players are w/ godde and such and outnumber the team with all the noobs. Licho something needs to be done about the balance.
+0 / -0
12 years ago
Maybe we should alter balance so it can't play if there are unequal top tens in both teams or nearly equal
+0 / -0

USranko_o
12 years ago
im the #10 player :D
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Skasi
12 years ago
I think all it needs is for Springie to recognize new players as such and use an elo of 1500 rather than ignoring them. And as I said, to split these low-weight players up between both teams.


The biggest problem however is the fact that you all play so frikkin bad, it's a pain in the robo-ass. :P
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USranko_o
12 years ago
im pretty sure it already does this
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12 years ago
I think it disregards new players as new, and treats them as having 1500 elo. Thus, I think the balance should treat new players as having less eol, since hey don't know many thinks about 0k.
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12 years ago
There is elo + weight.
New players have less wegith so they less contribute to team elo in calculation.
Calculation is weighted average.
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12 years ago
Just a suggestion - new players could have something like -100 elo at start, and then this minus could decrease at the rate of 5 elo per game, until they'd have no minus after 20 games - and at that time, their elo would most likely already be where it truly belongs.

The numbers are just examples, but they feel allright to me.
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USranko_o
12 years ago
well this system according to licho seems fine, its only a problem when theres very small games with mostly players that have no elo. This makes the weighted averages more skewed toward these elo-less players.

However, in a typical game setting the system Licho described should work just fine, and in larger games this tends to always be the case.
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12 years ago
This system has some serious issues imho.
It takes average elo of a team so number of players doesn't matter at all.
4v8 would show as 50% win chance if both teams have the same average elo.

Now lets say "A" means a player with 1700 elo.
(5 A) vs (2 A + 3 complete newbies) will still show as 50%.
It is because total newbies are weighted as 0 so their elo is ignored and only the elo of the remaining players is taken into account.
Because of this both teams will have average 1700 elo and predict will show 50% chance. And since it is 5v5 Springie will think it is ok and it will stack 3 noobs into the same team.
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12 years ago
Complete newbs really shouldn't be playing pw, that is more of a problem than uneven team sizes.

If you have good players on the smaller team, being on the smaller team is actually often a bit of an advantage.
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12 years ago
And rafal forgot to post a additional disadvantage.

If the 3 newbs sucks metal and spend it for fusions and 3 Aegis ( doesn't help at all ), then they suck the metal of the team mates.

If they don't be able to build mexes and build energy first then they are disadvantages and for the whole team and should count at disadvantages.


I allways try to get the mexes first and than the energy
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12 years ago
Suggest mathematically correct alternative to weighted average rafal.

Sprang - you cannot give people random ELO and then change it.
ELO is zero sum. If you start adding or removing points from system like that it will lead to major inflation/deflation or screw value of ELO point.
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12 years ago
Fair enough, I suppose even a temporary minus like that would skew the system. Though I can't see it affecting anything in a major way.
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12 years ago
>ELO is zero sum. If you start adding or removing points from system like that >it will lead to major inflation/deflation or screw value of ELO point.

It would be zero sum if it was used in a closed system. Here new players come and leave. Some new player may lose a few games, his elo become 1300 and then leave forever - that way his 200 elo will stay in the system. But this probably can't be avoided.

I will read more about how exactly elo works then I may come with some balancing suggestions.
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Skasi
12 years ago
Licho, I think he didn't mean "give them elo", but "make Springie see them as -100 elo" when balancing.
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