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Pxtl 12 years ago Should this map be marked "Special" because of its building-blocking sand? +0 / -0
Skasi 12 years ago No, I think the "special" tag should be reserved for features that make the map semi-unplayable. Eg Speedmetal's spamfest, Greenfields lack of metal spots. Honestly, I think even Duck shouldn't be tagged special. +0 / -0
Anthem 12 years ago Are you implying that Duck is playable? +0 / -0
Pxtl 12 years ago Ah, so "special" as in "DSD Special". Personally, I'd be inclined to rate any maps with highly unorthodox scripting or engine-supported gameplay elements as "special" and then let the star ratings speak for themselves. For example, I consider Hotstepper to be an excellent "special" map, similar to this one. But either way, maps with special unexpected features beyond the normal assortment of Spring terrain should probably be flagged as such in some manner beyond the Springie !say command warning +0 / -0
Skasi 12 years ago Shazzeh, are you implying it's not? 'Cause it clearly is. Pxtl, you might be right. "Special" could be anything that's interesting and "unplayable" maps could simply not be tagged as featured. +0 / -0
[1uP]Willk 12 years ago The problem is posting as special also removes it from some map searches I think. +0 / -0
Skasi 12 years ago We can make map search display "any" for "special" by default. Many maps that are currently tagged "special" should be featured and displayed with default settings, right now none is featured. +0 / -0
Zag 12 years ago I was not expecting the sand when I played on this map. I decided to go athena to quickly throw some mexes and LLT in the middle, but realized the athena wasn't building llts. As I was trying to get the athena to build something a few glaives ran up and killed it. A few min later I glance up at the chat box and see that "only mexes can be built on sand." facepalm Just saying that someone who hasn't played this map before may make an early game choice that doesn't work with the sand. +0 / -0
Pxtl 12 years ago After seeing Zag's expected confusion, marked as special. +0 / -0
Skasi 12 years ago People don't know windgens are better than moho geo in Lost and similar maps. Should we mark those special too? Maps shouldn't be tagged special just when people expected something to be different. Else we'd have a hard job finding unspecial maps. +0 / -0
Zag 12 years ago I don't think you have to worry about losing right off the bat from wind-gens being better than mohos. +0 / -0
DanteLorel 12 years ago You do if you build solars... +0 / -0
Licho 12 years ago WTF who featured this map? Its hugely confusing +0 / -0
Pxtl 12 years ago Licho - I think it's appropriate. I don't remember if I featured it or somebody else, but it's no more confusing than, say, Hotstepper. As it says in the thread - the "Special" flag marks it as a map with scripted or otherwise heavily unorthodox gameplay. +0 / -0
GoogleFrog 12 years ago In that case why is it featured? The featured maps are suppose to be representative. +0 / -0
Skasi 12 years ago It's an awesome map. Why shouldn't it be featured? +0 / -0
Pxtl 12 years ago Frog, because it's good. Anyhow, a more general discussion of the issue is here: http://zero-k.info/Forum/Thread/1338 We need a general policy on when to feature "special" maps, if ever. +0 / -0
Saktoth 12 years ago I think the best point made there is that it requires it to be clearly obvious that you cannot build on this terrain: The grid should show up as red when you try and build there, rather than hackily just blocking the command. +0 / -0
[1uP]Willk 12 years ago This is the older version of the map btw. Zaggop has come out with a v4 and is still tweaking the map(plus adding something extra) +0 / -0
sprang 12 years ago Version 4 has a nice warning sign before game that you can't build on sand! ...but in that version you can build on sand without problems. +0 / -0

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