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The one (only) good thing about threads like these is that they do at least prompt us all to think about the standards this community should have.
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The one (only) good thing about threads like these is that they do at least prompt us all to think about the standards this community should have.
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Frankly, it speaks volumes to the admins' general tolerance and forebearance that these threads don't get locked as soon as they appear. I believe that in many other gaming communities, commentaries on admin policing decisions would be shut down immediately.
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Frankly, it speaks volumes to the admins' general tolerance and forebearance that these threads don't get locked as soon as they appear. I believe that in many other gaming communities, commentaries on admin policing decisions would be shut down immediately.
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I fully support @hokomoko's decision to word his rebuke a little more robustly than he might have done for someone else (or even to comment at all). @snoke is a legitimately very good player. I'm happy to see him on my team because I know that whatever role he elects to fill, he will fill well. If I can do something that will support whatever he's up to, I'll try to do it. I'm also satisfied that if he's doing something that looks anti-team like rushing nuke, he's done it making a reasonable consideration of the risks and benefits.
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I fully support @hokomoko's decision to word his rebuke a little more robustly than he might have done for someone else (or even to comment at all). @snoke is a legitimately very good player. I'm happy to see him on my team because I know that whatever role he elects to fill, he will fill well. If I can do something that will support whatever he's up to, I'll try to do it. I'm also satisfied that if he's doing something that looks anti-team like rushing nuke, he's done it making a reasonable consideration of the risks and benefits.
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This doesn't stop him being a bit of a prat on occasion however.
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This doesn't stop him being a bit of a prat on occasion however.
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Take @b713348. In the pre-battle stage he remarks (publicly):
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Take @b713348. In the pre-battle stage he remarks (publicly):
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"Hellaciouss plz rename to Hellaciouss[vegan]"
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"Hellaciouss plz rename to Hellaciouss[vegan]"
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Sounds pretty innocuous - except that I know full well they seem to rather dislike each other. I also know that snoke also profoundly dislikes rooks[vegan] since they've also had forum thread spats in the past, so the only way to read that is as an insult. I comment a little while later (in ally chat, not publicly):
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Sounds pretty innocuous - except that I know full well they seem to rather dislike each other. I also know that snoke also profoundly dislikes rooks[vegan] since they've also had forum thread spats in the past, so the only way to read that is as an insult. I comment a little while later (in ally chat, not publicly):
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"Spare the baiting please, I'd like to win from time to time."
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"Spare the baiting please, I'd like to win from time to time."
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Nothing further happens (though we lose anyway, somewhat ironically). I spoke then, making a minor intervention in an effort to forestall something worse that my prior experience of the participants suggested was likely. I play this game to have a mentally demanding kind of fun. I don't play it to see people bitching at each other.
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Nothing further happens (though we lose anyway, somewhat ironically). I spoke then, making a minor intervention in an effort to forestall something worse that my prior experience of the participants suggested was likely. I play this game to have a mentally demanding kind of fun. I don't play it to see people bitching at each other.
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In
real
life,
I
work
quite
a
lot
with
police
officers.
A
police
officer,
like
a
game
admin
(
though
of
course
to
a
much
greater
degree)
has
a
certain
level
of
visible
authority
and
the
right
to
carry
out
actions
that
are
generally
not
available
to
the
rest
of
the
community.
In
the
UK
at
least,
there
are
certain
expectations
about
how
police
officers
exercise
their
powers.
There
are
all
manner
of
mission
statements,
vision
statements
and
codes
of
ethics,
but
the
starting
point
was
the
[url=https://en.
wikipedia.
org/wiki/Peelian_principles]Peelian
Principals[/url].
One
can
be
cynical
about
any
code
of
conduct
applied
to
a
government
body
with
coercive
powers
over
the
citizenry
of
course,
but
as
a
statement
of
principals,
I
find
them
far
more
eloquent
expressions
of
what
policing
should
be
than
the
modern
versions
I've
signed
up
to.
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In
real
life,
I
work
quite
a
lot
with
police
officers.
A
police
officer,
like
a
game
admin
(
though
of
course
to
a
much
greater
degree)
has
a
certain
level
of
visible
authority
and
the
right
to
carry
out
actions
that
are
generally
not
available
to
the
rest
of
the
community.
In
the
UK,
there
are
certain
expectations
about
how
police
officers
exercise
their
powers.
There
are
all
manner
of
mission
statements,
vision
statements
and
codes
of
ethics,
but
the
starting
point
was
the
[url=https://en.
wikipedia.
org/wiki/Peelian_principles]Peelian
Principals[/url].
One
can
be
cynical
about
any
code
of
conduct
applied
to
a
government
body
with
coercive
powers
over
the
citizenry
of
course,
but
as
a
statement
of
principals,
I
find
them
pretty
eloquent.
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Amongst them are the following:
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Amongst them are the following:
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1) To prevent crime and disorder, as an alternative to their repression by military force and severity of legal punishment.
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1) To prevent crime and disorder, as an alternative to their repression by military force and severity of legal punishment.
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6) To use physical force only when the exercise of persuasion, advice and warning is found to be insufficient to obtain public co-operation to an extent necessary to secure observance of law or to restore order, and to use only the minimum degree of physical force which is necessary on any particular occasion for achieving a police objective.
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6) To use physical force only when the exercise of persuasion, advice and warning is found to be insufficient to obtain public co-operation to an extent necessary to secure observance of law or to restore order, and to use only the minimum degree of physical force which is necessary on any particular occasion for achieving a police objective.
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Something
I
learned
about
in
training
was
the
"continuum
of
force"
a
concept
that
governs
every
single
interaction
police
officers
have
with
the
public.
Why?
Because
it
doesn't
start
with
physical
contact.
It
starts
simply
with
the
officer's
presence,
proceeds
through
every
kind
of
verbal
and
non
verbal
communication
before
reaching
the
point
of
physical
contact.
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Something
I
learned
about
was
the
"continuum
of
force"
a
concept
that
governs
every
single
interaction
police
officers
have
with
the
public.
Why?
Because
it
doesn't
start
with
physical
contact.
It
starts
simply
with
the
officer's
presence,
proceeds
through
every
kind
of
verbal
and
non
verbal
communication
before
reaching
the
point
of
physical
contact.
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I said what I said to prevent the disorder of a team bitching at each other instead of playing the game, judging this the minimum intervention necessary to achieve the objective of a fun and pleasant team game. Hoko did the same with the situation he saw.
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I said what I said to prevent the disorder of a team bitching at each other instead of playing the game, judging this the minimum intervention necessary to achieve the objective of a fun and pleasant team game. Hoko did the same with the situation he saw.
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Admin Abuse of Hokomoko