people just start hostile to new players.

Probably better to simply report Firepluk than start (yet another) forum thread about him.

This does seem a little weak, especially since multiple peops were laying into sfire at the time.

...why does thread exist...

Newfriends should get help they require and deserve. I've seen many players giving tips and words of advice to new players as well as many people projecting annoyed vibe towards them, with "gosh, newb on north" attitude.

It is in our common interest to help and guide them - new blood is just vital.

quote: Agreed, though you do realize that this thread is at least 3 years old, right?

but still up to date

quote: Newfriends should get help they require and deserve. I've seen many players giving tips and words of advice to new players as well as many people projecting annoyed vibe towards them, with "gosh, newb on north" attitude. It is in our common interest to help and guide them - new blood is just vital.

frustrating when a new player in teamgames just dont want to listen.
tag them in a nice way its a bad idea to spam storages and they spam even more storages and tell you to watch your own units which are actually dying at the frontline because lack of energy caused by storage spam.
specially frustrating when its the 4th match in a row already.

tho i understand i wanted to try out units in team games first aswell instead of playing a campaign or something and got blamed for it too.

I have to agree with MoM here.

Some new guys are really good and practically naturals.

Other guys just ruin games by doing ... nothing.

I've been in quite a few games where we made an early push, supported each other, and seemed like we were going to win, before the advance stalled in the face of superior numbers. I look at the back to see what units we can scrape together and, lo and behold, there's a guy with 20 storages and he's building more. There's already a bunch of comments from the other (new) players to please help out, and hes ignoring to build some monstrosity like Zenith.

I was in another game where a dude terraformed the bastille complete with ramps, solars and (of course) storages at his starting point. We would probably have won that one too if it wasn't for him dragging us down. I think it's fair to say that if that amount of metal and energy waste had been transformed into units the balance would have completely tipped.

I agree that one should be helpful and tolerant of new players and tactics, but there's some stuff that SIMPLY DOESNT WORK like building 100 solars for the win, or storages, or Bertha first thing on a map like Fairyland. Often guys don't listen when you tell them they are dragging the team down.

Maybe there should be an option for limiting players to a certain experience and / or rank level for multiplayer games, with the bar of entry rising as the size of the game rises. I think that by level 8-10 the guy should know what he's doing enough not to be an anchor.

Are you people serious?

People need to learn. They do this by playing. You can't ban new players for being bad. That's how communities die. Rest assured that players that fail to learn will have their elo go down until their lack of contribution is counteracted by having stronger team-mates.

I mean, that game you talk about where the game was winnable if only he'd contributed. I imagine that means it was close? Because you shouldn't really be complaining about a close game that you lost... You'll lose half of all teams games by design, and not all of them will be close. Imagine how unbalanced it would have been if he did contribute?

So yeah, the problem is not bad players. It's bad players who start off with average elo, before it goes down. The problem is self correcting.

learn to ignore people you dislike

new blood is incredibly important. If you turn sour because your (new) mate can carry your team playing ass, maybe play some 1v1 instead and find out how good you really are...

Good thread. Shaman is right, that's not the level of babysitting we want. I'd rather have sucky players as team mates that deal with that sort of poisonous environment.