Bad maps?

Games can take a long time to get off the ground due to people cycling through maps. This takes a particularly long time in team games since a vote is required for each veto.

A lot of people say things like "shitmap", but never give any justification. For me, the only maps I don't like are ones that I lose a lot on, but that's not really the map being bad, is it?

For those with strong opinions on which maps are worth playing on, can you give me examples of maps you don't like and why?

Map: Geyser Plains
Reason: FFFFFFFF-FOG MESSES UP ALL THE PLAYER COLORS!

Note to self: always vote !n when SnuggleBass says !map in 1v1.

Failer
Without any water, or just not enough for it to be classified as a sea game? I find that a little bit of water spices maps up a lot for fac choice.

[pikts]wolas
That's the nature of FFA though right? I guess the small ones can end quickly... Are there any 1v1 or team maps you dislike?

Brackman
Metal density too high? So you prefer maps like quicksilver and icyrun? I enjoy the variety. Anything that makes you think about how you expand, but doesn't make it so difficult you never leave your initial start position.

I think maps that I don't like are ones where there's only one viable factory. Even then they're sort of useful for concentrating on the mirror.

To fix: Remove every map.

It mostly comes down to 2 things for me- how the map looks and what the gameplay is like.

I dislike Iceland_v1 because it is just an eyesore and units don't contrast well with the map.

I dislike field of isis purely because it always leads to crappy gameplay. It is a map which forces porc in 2 chokepoints, that makes for some fun in team games but in 1v1 it is soo boring.

Also I agree, nobody can be bothered with super large maps, they force real games and real games take too much effort.

I very much dislike Isis Delta because no factory works on this map well and it basically have 2 chokepoints that one has to hold.

I dislike Gayser Plains because of how one is basically forced into taking rocket com or you just lose. Also the map is hideous and asymmetrical (metal balance wise as well as terrain wise).

I dislike most water maps, that is: Flooded Valley, Coastal, Tangled Isthmus Revised, Rapids, Sapphire Shores and especially Indonesia beacause it is such awful map, broken on so many levels). Inculta Wet and Cull are somewhat okaish though but still it is a case of water play being not fun in my opinion.

All of these maps gave me some awful game experience in ZK. Most of them also do not add any gameplay value into the game besides perhaps Gayser Plains which I can understand that this map is apealing to some players.

Btw [Fx]Drone you say that you nobody can be bothered with super large maps yet in this other thread you said that your favorites are one of the biggest maps in 1v1 pool :P

Isis Delta: Ugly, has super chokepoints -> gets porcy.
MoonQ10X: Ugly, unbalanced.
Fractured Faces, Cull: ugly, bland.
Zion: Unreadable.

There are some others with which i have assorted utensils to grind, but i wouldn't call !map them most of the time or call them bad. E.g. Cooper Hill is ugly, but it has remedying if quirky play.

All these are from 1v1 pool. I don't care for wtf-pool.

Maps that have "Official Tournament Map by Quanto" in their description tend to be pretty crappy for various reasons

quote: Any big FFA map. COZ GAMES TAKES 2 HOURS

Yeah and you are so terrible at it you can't even extract any fun from those 2 hours.