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Bantha Rush

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9 years ago
Bantha ready by 3:18, game over in 4 min after that...

Should have been Battle 373232-373235 I guess, it doesn't show up in battle list.
Download replay from here :
http://bluetemplar.free.fr/spring/20150830_221240_Fields_Of_Isis_100_Bantha_Rush.sdf
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9 years ago
It does not show up because of desyncs, many players (at least 3) had them.
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9 years ago
Just FYI, Bantha rushing only works if your opponent hasn't scouted you very well and isn't raiding very hard. If they have good raider play (which, in fairness, I certainly don't) they'll be able to beat you before you get the Bantha out.
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9 years ago
Have you seen the replay?

They did scout, did see the bantha, and did raid... perhaps not well enough?
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9 years ago
There's nothing wrong here.

Clusterfuck is a degenerate case of ZK.
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9 years ago
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There's nothing wrong here.

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Clusterfuck is a degenerate case of ZK.



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nothing wrong

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Clusterfuck is degenerate


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wrong

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Clusterfuck


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ZK has a case of the Clusterfucks


I need to sleep
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Master! Master! Where's the teamsize I've been after?
Master! Master! You promised smaller rooms!
Cluster! Cluster! All I see around is cluster!
Cluster! Cluster! Clusterfuck with noobs!
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9 years ago
I can't see the replay, but there is not a single thing in the game that can't be answered decisively with less metal. Yes coordination might get you a mega-threat earlier than would ordinarily be possible, but assuming equal skill on the part of opponents there are many available options for counter-play.

Scout and counter and/or disrupt.

Maybe in ridic high numbers where your starting metal is enough to rush super-weapons? We can cross that bridge when we come to it.
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9 years ago
AUrankSnuggleBass they scouted us and enemy team especially PErankatom2 said: "just expand no ultimatum"

It's their fault that they didn't recognize a big threat from me microwing and rushing a bantha.
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but there is not a single thing in the game that can't be answered decisively with less metal

I'm not so sure that this applies to a sufficient mass of conservatively applied Funnelweb. Pretty much anything else though I agree.
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Big bertha spam with any of the following if need: razor, racketeer, TB, and silo.

While BB costs more than funnel, it's useful when you've only got one. Assuming continued investment from both sides the BB will gradually disallow funnels from leaving base, at which point you've got map control and even a viable threat to their base, while they have a ball only usable in defense if that.

Okay so not decisive in the sense you definitely kill funnels, but in a strategic sense it's a pretty damn hard counter.
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9 years ago
BB can kill almost anything (except air) when are in numbers. Detris, funnels, dantes, banthas, kill shields. I see even DRp melted by BB. Awesome building.
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9 years ago
Funnelweb is best anyway where there's a lot of cliffs - the same cliffs are likely to create regions where BB cannot hit (like the map from the replay? I guess a BB on the mid back cliff there can still snipe both opposing team's geothermals?).
How good is BB at knocking down terraformed walls?
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9 years ago
I've seen detriments rushed in 8 minutes, this is barely surprising.
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9 years ago
"I've seen detriments rushed in 8 minutes, this is barely surprising." A classic on the map downcount.
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