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3 years ago
"feeling what?"

is the misleading answer
+1 / -6
3 years ago
Will people stop making useless threads plz
+5 / -2


3 years ago
When you try darkly hinting, but are inept at it.
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3 years ago
Off topic this please. Doesn't belong in GD.
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3 years ago
Chesti when did you become a troll?
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Months ago, before he was deadmined. Though I wouldn't call what he does 'trolling' -- trolling seems to hold positive light in this backwards community, so it's best to call it what it is: being a nuisance. Same with overly verbal spectators. Sadly these toxic elements will eventually start influencing more people to become one of them over time unless they're removed. Hopefully they will be before steam release. Either they need to be removed or punishments need to be more public to curb some of the spread.

It started out innocently enough, beginning with "L o L" etc. Then it progressed into insult-based 'humor'. Now he's an obnoxious toxic player like RUrankFirepluk and co. That's the power of toxicity in a social environment for you. Abusee becomes abuser, eventually as behavior is shown tolerance/acceptance. You don't want more noxious players, start verbalizing it's not okay. You can see it everywhere you look. Our behavior is dictated by environment and influences after all.
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_Shaman i never thought we would ever agree on something as much as this. I used to voice-chat alot with him and he was quite okay for a long time, but it got terribly worse in the last few weeks. -> resulted in mute. sad. just super-sad...
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3 years ago
USrank_Shaman

"That's the power of toxicity in a social environment for you. Abusee becomes abuser, eventually as behavior is shown tolerance/acceptance. You don't want more noxious players, start verbalizing it's not okay. You can see it everywhere you look. Our behavior is dictated by environment and influences after all."

I think the anonymous unconsequential (I don't think inconsequential quite fits) nature of the internet changes this ball game.

The toxicity created by intolerance seems to be the problem in chesti's case.
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Your face is toxic USrank_Shaman, pls remove it
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3 years ago
Pesticides are toxic.
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3 years ago
I feel the lobness overtaking me...It is a good lob.
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loblob, I can feel it
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3 years ago
Large community problem ir also some two faced players and some whiners (in game chat and spectator chat as well). They should too be cleared or punished from community before steam release. And it isn't just RUrankFirepluk and co who is problem. Some peoples see splinter in other eye but dont see log in his own.
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3 years ago
Post 1: Something meaningless
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Post n: Problems with ZK community.
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3 years ago
Post 1: Something meaningless
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Post n: Problems with ZK community.
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Post nX: There are a disease in the Zero-K community, driving new players away.
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Some people don't understand that there's a human being behind (most) screen names with feelings and goals. I for one, do not desire to be the butt of your insult-based 'jokes' (I don't think ANYONE really does) nor do I find it desirable for you to be making fun of others. If I must, I'll start reporting overly verbal spectators so they can be specmuted since nobody else is doing it. Admins may not be as enthusiastic about enforcing the rules, but I am. I'm tired of this shit -- the constant abusive environment, the constant crap storm of verbal vomit from spectators and players. Enough is enough. I propose the following solution:

1.) Spectators who make any nonproductive commentary (EG: helping fix a bug/helping newbie (iff welcomed)) during games are to be warned up to two times (in a day). If they continue, they deserve a specmute. During games is defined as after the 10 second mark. Pregame is fine since it's not distracting. Specmutes should last no shorter than 30 minutes for the first and up to 1 day for repeat offenders. Repeat offenders are to be given no leniency.

2.) Players who are overly verbal and constantly make jokes about other player's gameplay should be muted for 5/10/30/60 minutes. "lol" is fine if something's funny, don't do it constantly. Commentary like "lob lob", "noob","resign lobsters",etc is not fine and will result in a mute. You are there to play a game, not make fun of others. It's hurtful and rude and drives players away.

3.) ANY use of offensive language after game (EG: blaming team,making fun of other players,etc) is an automatic 5/10/30/60 minute mute. No leniency or warnings given AT ALL. Say gg and move on. If you want to joke to your friends about their gameplay, DO SO IN PM/private channel, not in lobby. If you want to vent about that game, do so out of the eyes of the public (forums/public channels).

Admins should be able to give mild (<1hr) punishments (outside of ban) for infringements like this. This system would give some social standards and curb some toxicity in games by as much as 80-90% and increase enjoyability a lot. If this system could get approval, I'd like to give it a month's worth of test run with some volunteers from the admin team. See if the problem diminishes. If necessary I can report all activity that breaks these three rules if I can get some promise that it will be enforced. Some statistics should be collected such as number of warnings given out, number of mutes given out, and if the behavior is still occurring after our reclamation project.

These might be tight and heavy handed a bit, but we're fast approaching the point where something needs to be done. Time to either grow a pair and start nurturing a positive, welcoming community even if it means losing a few toxic members to create a warm atmosphere for newbies to join in or to accept the reality that any campaign is going to be mostly losses thanks to residential toxic elements. Who needs the toxic players anyways?

#EnoughIsEnough #MakeZKGreatAgain
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3 years ago
4)Rename game from Zero K to Nanny K.
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I'm not on board with (3). There are conditions under which it is appropriate to talk negatively about the play of others postgame.

Talking negatively about your teammates as people I am not so okay with, though.

(1) and (2) do not seem unreasonable in prinicple.
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quote:
talk negatively about the play of others postgame.


There's talking negative (eg hey you did were throwing units at the enemy needlessly.) and there's offensive language ("lol epic suicide from AUrankAdminAquanim ")

Venting on the other hand is just raging out of the eyes of the public.

The latter is what I want to curb. Making fun of others isn't cool or funny, and it deserves muting. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear on the intention.
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3 years ago
well, do you feel it now?
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