I use Big Bertha to 1. hit Caretaker/Factory from distance, forcing build more static shield/cloak or terraforming| alternative&supportive: Scythe 2. hit Solar/Wind/Mex/Energy Pylon from distance, cut off energy grid| alternative&supportive: Scythe, Phantom 3. hit closing grouped front skirmishers/raiders/artillery or distant large shieldball | alternative: Cerberus, Emissary/Tremor
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it makes me feel like a big man to build a big gun.. but the more big berthas i build the more my wife threatens to leave me. i am so confused.
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Make Big Bertha spam less in early game: make it require energy grid 100E. Encourage more metal input on Energy.
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https://zero-k.info/Forum/Post/200508#200508 build a better Big Gun to comfort and fun, Disco Rave Party is the choice
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Make Big Bertha spam less in early game: make it require energy grid 100E. Encourage more metal input on Energy. |
Teamgame grids typically get way higher than 100E just from the linking wind spam. Here's a hotter take: Make Bertha less inaccurate, but make every shot cost metal (via stockpile, with time to stockpile one shell equal to its current reload time). Kinda like Artemis, really.
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Make it lose hp after every shot, like the ships in cossacks :p
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i recently learned that BB is also best AA.
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Here's a hotter take:
Make Bertha less inaccurate, but make every shot cost metal (via stockpile, with time to stockpile one shell equal to its current reload time). |
No, accurate Big Bertha is worse, 3 shot a factory, one shot a metal extractor, and serve as new commander killer at range(also kill those dare to reclaim the residual). Worth 25m/s. Each team will rush for them if Big Bertha is accurate. Energy grid requirement would encourage the player to scout more to disable enemy energy grid and the Big Bertha required Energy Grid with Big Bertha. I became a Big Bertha player lately, since Firewalker, Tremor, Large Shieldball, Iris and Cerberus are very common now, snipers struggle to survive. From recent games, I learnt the game become much easier to use BB or Nuke break down enemy production chain first then swallow the residual. quote:
i recently learned that BB is also best AA. |
To bombard Airpad?
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Useing BB against valueable targets and noob-Shield-stuff/balls/clusters. Alternatives? None thats better so far.
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@[1uP]archl your answer to     Anarchid is unvalid as he never stated HOW MUCH metal actually. if you use like 3000m a shot for example, it would not make cost against factories. if it´s shells are expensive, it´s pointless to rush it at the beginning since you could not fuel it.
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Well, even more spam. I found bertha counter spam, have 3 bertha from different angle, assisting cloaky raiders and sniper to murder enenmy arty/raider/assault/strider etc. Strider need assistants, and assistants killed by bertha.
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https://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/712657Big Bertha perform well on this map. Killed multiple striders and push the rest back to their base. IMO, I'm a low skill player, 1800 is bar I'm advancing to. But Bertha changed all, if I keep building bertha in teamgame. I maybe good? This time, I gain a Complete Annihilation Award, wow. 3 Berthas, plus a dozen phantoms, and less than 200 cloaky bots doing defending or scouting jobs. I feel the game is so easy with Big Berthas. How to react to high ground Bertha with enough AA and enough defensive force blocking entry? Paladin dante merlin scopion are all beaten by Bertha/Phantom/Glavies mix, what units to produce to assist Paladin/dante/merlin in not-so-flat map
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In a team game, there are worse things to do with metal than build a Bertha. Feeding reclaim to the enemy without making value is worse than building a Bertha. For an inexperienced player, units which are least interactive are the safest. Bertha can get value without ever giving it an order to shoot at a particular location, though when you have one your teammates will often tell you where to aim.
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Kill BB with silo. Get close to enemy bb, t-form, gaus + hold fire on top(u want the 75% Defence buff and the 20 regen), caretaker behind, silo behind in center. 1x shockley 2xeos and rip bb. 2 many shields? 2x shockley and then more eos if u kill 2 shields with 1 eos u do kinda profit. Caretakers? Builders? Other unitspam defending? Inferno does the Job while the owner rages cuz of the shockleys effect. His stuff just standing there beeing cookey alive.
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A Zenith worth of tacnukes inside of an airlifted area-cloaked Scylla also does the job.
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is scylla still airliftable?
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ya did it before, u can do it with the force release, hercules needs to stand still and drop on even ground Scylla takes arround 50% dmg, dont hit hercules with scylla ;) Ill post the battle here in a few hours. After some time u acumulate quite a bit of aggro from enemy team = iris at dropzone highly recomended! Dunno if its still possible (u can still carry detri cant u?= scylla should be possible?) but if u cant lift it u just Lobster it #Landbattleship
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You need to get it out of the water before it becomes possible to load it into Hercules, but that's trivial by terraforming it up.
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The funniest way in which u can wreck enemy eco on sea map is by 1) scouting it 2) making scylla 3) terraing it up and loading in heavy trans 4) dropping in range of singus 5) now fire a valley of missiles... singu clusters make task easier What is the tacnuke safe depth for singu? -400 or so?
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