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Title: 1v1 training no elo
Host: ITrankBLISS
Game version: Zero-K v1.7.9.5
Engine version: 104.0.1-1398-g7442945
Battle ID: 780481
Started: 5 years ago
Duration: 20 minutes
Players: 2
Bots: False
Mission: False
Rating: None
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RUrankrewdrfe2
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ITrankBLISS
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DErankkatastrophe

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okay, BLISS asked me what went wrong for them here...

- after the first few minutes, you became too focused on the center-fight. maybe some halberts to raid your opponents economy or even drive into their artillery (hold-fire, go into their middle, manually fire. the AoE of the emissaries might even help you)

- maybe instead of going Shield switch to gs. Shields get shredded by the emissaries as well as you see. The Gunships would have been only useful for a few moments until your enemy gets 2 or 3 raors, but this might give you the time to get
those halberts and cripple their economy.

- you could have used a cloaker as well

- but in general, i think it´s the fac-matchup. even tho you had a few chances, IMHO emissary really has too much AoE and just dominates all other arty.

- okay, could be that hover isn´t the best choice for this map either as you trade power for speed, wich is not helpful on that map.

- or get silo and napalm your enemy´s factory/arty.


i am only 100% sure about my first and last point tho.
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thank you very much katastrophe , I agree with everything you said. I always tend to insist in one point of the map while raiding is the most important thing in this game.
I thought I had this game until emissaries came out !!! and yeah shield wasnt the smartest move probably ! Originally I wanted to make many racketeers and some thugs together with a mix of hover units but I could not handle emissaries !!
GG to rewdrfe2 , I find these no elo praccies very useful to get better !
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5 years ago
Haven't watched the replay, but did you try cloaked manual-fire Lance's picking off Emissaries and Tremors which are scouted with Halberds?
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5 years ago
tremor negates cloak...
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5 years ago
Only if the Tremor knows where to fire, generally people will fire at a particular location...

Anyway, I've now watched the replay.

As DErankkatastrophe says in his original post, a cloaker would have helped a lot. There's no excuse to not invest 600 metal when you have 3000 worth of Lances that need protection.

I also recommend having fire at radar disabled.

Oddly enough, in the mid-late game halberd monospam would have worked perfectly as a counter to his Emissary spam... I strongly recommend scouting throughout the game, Sparrows are cheap compared to the value of knowing your enemy's army composition and disposition.
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5 years ago
thank you dyth68

ok , I should start using cloack , I always forget about that. And yes , I usually use sparrows
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5 years ago
but don´t forget to build energy. cloaker drains a lot.
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