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Steel_Blue

3 years ago

CCR Macro challenge still on the menu boys! and girls! :)

+2 / -0

Sigero

3 years ago

nice,do it vs brutal now,CAI dies to 1 stinger

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Anarchid

3 years ago
(edited 3 years ago)

quote:
nice,do it vs brutal now,CAI dies to 1 stinger

CCR Macro Challenge forbids you to make turrets, artillery, heavies, air, and bullshit skirms anyway.

You're literally only allowed to build Dart Scorcher Fencer Ripper Ravager Crasher for armed units! And

Steel_Blue goes an extra step here and also doesn't build Fencer either.

+3 / -0

katastrophe

3 years ago

try 2 circuit anyway

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Anir

3 years ago

sry

Anarchid, but i totaly agree CAI is a childstoy

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katastrophe

3 years ago

It`s not. Try it. I agree it`s possible, but doing it reliably is something else. I just say try circuit because after some time, you know the patterns of a specific AI very well and it becomes a lot easier as you begin to subconsciously exploit it, if you want or not.

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Anir

3 years ago

https://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/1050714

This was my third-try.

The only units i used were Darts, Scorchers and Mason.
No defenses/radar/air

Personaly i think a challange should require more tries ;-)

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Anarchid

3 years ago

quote:
sry but i totaly agree CAI is a childstoy

CAI was losing to early versions of kgb whose entire military planning was "send knight out of factory on fight move into enemy baes", so i'm not disagreeing

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Steel_Blue

3 years ago

You want CCR+ challenge?

VS 2 brutal, only restriction no teraform. and no dominatrix.
CCR++ would be no porc.

I think that should be a sufficiently harder challenge.

Curses how CAI maces got stuck in fightmove loops outside the front line

Anir.

+1 / -0

katastrophe

3 years ago
(edited 3 years ago)

quote:
This was my third-try.

33.3% winchance. If you are happy with that...

I also beat

Sigero once or twice :D

+1 / -0

katastrophe

3 years ago
(edited 3 years ago)

Why not go for:

"I can do it 5 times in a row."

Since its such a childplay...

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Anir

3 years ago

katastrophe, ok i accept the challange

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Anir

3 years ago
(edited 3 years ago)

Steel_Blue,
yeah, thats one of the exploits which can be used against AI, just need to always attack their back so they send all their troops there :D

i have multiple games where i have done CCR++, either with only Fencers or Darts+Scorchers.
an example: https://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/1009666

Yesterday i also played these two games:
https://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/1050720 (1 Brutal)
https://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/1050726 (2 Brutal)

In both games i only used Darts, but i couldn't do it against 2 Brutals, at least not 1st try... and i am uncertain if i can do it against 2, just 2-3 Warriors at 1 Spot require so many Darts to kill them...

But hey i like challanges, do you have any others? maybe different maps? or other factories.

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Anir

3 years ago

katastrophe:

4 consecutive wins:
https://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/1051043
https://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/1051048
https://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/1051056
https://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/1051066

I stupidly lost the 5th game again, but i think 4 out of 5 is acceptable.

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katastrophe

3 years ago
(edited 3 years ago)

quote:
but i think 4 out of 5 is acceptable.

no!

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quote:
yeah, thats one of the exploits which can be used against AI, just need to always attack their back so they send all their troops there :D

yes exactly. :D thats why its a lot easier with scorchers than with fencers. Porking is actually counterproductive. I think it`s HARDER to win with pork. That`s the nice part, it teaches you how to play alond the proverb: always attack, never defend.

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katastrophe

3 years ago

quote:
But hey i like challanges, do you have any others? maybe different maps? or other factories.

hm inculta is also hard, but i think this is not that much more difficult.

actually, you could try to play 2

DeinFreund.

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Manu12

3 years ago

quote:
But hey i like challanges, do you have any others? maybe different maps? or other factories.

Play Titan v3.1 vs 2x Brutal Ai.
Restriction: you may only build Glaive, Ronin, Conjurer as units and Lotus as Def.
And no terraform.

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Anir

3 years ago

Ok i did do your challange.

Titan is very different compared to Comet Catcher.

I first tried to do it without porc, only glaives.
Tried it 4 times, and failed 4 times. So i can't do that yet, i am not shure that it is rly doable. Glaives insta die to Ripper shots, so as soon as you got 4 or 5 in 1 Spot, it will take at least +-60 glaives to kill such a ball. And that would still result in 40-50 dead glaives so yeah.

I sometimes challanged myself in playing on Melange (24x24 map) vs 2 Brutals, only glaives and Swifts for aa purposes. There i sometimes had to sacrifice 500+ Glaives to take down bigger unitballs. But on Titan, I just don't think there is enough Metal to play such a strategy so...

But back to your inital challange. It took me 1 try;
https://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/1051427

(I maybe would have needed 2 games without my previous attempts, where i could figure out where to plop would be the best, and where they would plop.)

Another one?
Do you want 1 too?

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Manu12

3 years ago

quote:
Another one?

How did you like the difficulty of the Titan v3.1 challenge?
You want something more difficult or similar?

This should be about similar/maybe a bit harder.

Play Desert Rumble 1.02 vs 2x Brutal Ai.
Restriction: you may only build Pyro as units (no constructor!) and Lotus as Def.
And no terraform.

quote:
Do you want 1 too?

I am not too into playing Zk atm, but if you post sth I would give it a shot.

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Anarchid

3 years ago

quote:
Play Desert Rumble 1.02 vs 2x Brutal Ai.
Restriction: you may only build Pyro as units (no constructor!) and Lotus as Def.
And no terraform.

Is commorph ok?

+0 / -0

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Title:	Steel_Blue's ccr
Host:	Steel_Blue
Game version:	Zero-K v1.9.1.1
Engine version:	104.0.1-1544-ge1f249f
Battle ID:	1050239
Started:	3 years ago
Duration:	19 minutes
Players:	1
Bots:	True
Mission:	False
Rating:	None