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Lob-Pot is titled "casual" for a reason: Lobs are lazy and want a relaxed time. That's what the big pot is for. Most players I observe play below their mm skill, maybe try some stuff, have fun morphing their coms, etc. That is also what I do most of the time when playing casual.
A good player can certainly make a big difference in a team game though (provided he is not trolling). Yesterday Anarchid was almost single-handedly holding one third of the front, supporting another third and even pushing the opponents back at a point where the other team had been holding most of the map for a while...

Personally, I feel too lazy to really focus when playing big games. The small amount of income makes it feel somewhat tedious to actually carry out plans. Coordinating in voice-com (teamspeak / discord) with a clanmate helps a lot to improve the experience.

Brofessional

quote: I find it to be quite cozy and relaxing since there is so many players.

quote: I think everybody has to admit, especially nowadays, they are rough. Rough, generic and boring.

So what now?

As said in the other thread, play the right maps and you will not see that much arty/pork-spam: Inculta, Valiant Saltscape.

quote: You don't have to play the game "super competitively" to find the people who perpetually sit at the back working on vanity projects pretty tiresome.

I agree on that, but that is not an exclusive problem of clusterfuck.

quote: I agree on that, but that is not an exclusive problem of clusterfuck.

It is very difficult to find yourself matched with or against such a person in matchmaker :)

I really enjoy if I succeed in building good porc. Porc is really healthy for internal lobster organs, as it additionally protects them, cooperating with the shell. At the same time, I like to have long-reach shears in form of artillery to break other lobsters' porc shell. It doesn't work all the time, so sometimes I need to get emotional refuge in upgrading my commander and then trying to establish a singularity plant on front to keep me warm. Additionally, I enjoy having shared unit control, because then I don't need to micro my units and I can concentrate on warming my tail at the singu. Lobster life is really beautiful and I don't understand, why some people like all that lonely, cold battles on small, claustrophobic maps. So my opinion is to maintain the current situation, maybe some more porc... (don't take this seriously pls :P)

thats why I upgrade my com and guard my fromtline singu, so the skuttle dies too, not only the com XDDD

I wonder how much of the current porc/arty meta is learned helplessness.

Like, if the other team in group chat unite sufficiently and decide they are all going to push at game start, and they do, does that team basically win almost unopposed?

if you play a lobpot on a map smaller than 16x16 that's your funeral tbh

Fist thing first - lobpot enthusiasts predominantly are not forum participants and those who dwell in forums, from looks of it, are amusing themselves by making up problems where is none and lobbing around it with pseudopolitics :) (what? my honest lurker's opinion...)
For all places i've been in, scarce as they might be, i must point out one tendency - there is always equivalent of what locally called "pot" in some shape or form. ut2k4, part of the "ultimate hardcore shooter" series that i obsessively played for some years, while offering some competitive gametypes, most popular servers were teamgames including vehicular 16vs16 clusters-something, most of which are spam, camping, trashtalk/cheating accusations dramas or attempts to gathers votes to kick some trolls.
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In fact it was hard to find players for classic 1v1, by far not everyone will find a joy in tryhard-ing, counting 55/25 sec for items and zoning out that shock rifle. Admins of our server (took me years to appreciate their work...) were saying it is fun for everyone ( and i concur here) - every person can find application for that one thing they like to do, be it raw aim skills, map navigation, tactical moves or camping and chatting.
And here some possible answers to question "Why do you find such big games appealing" : less tryhard/less waiting time/easier for balance (ut had no balancing system whatsoever).
I'd argue same true for a FAF: here are gap-and-likes/thermo/a-crater and semi-clusters like wonder, and i will avoid commenting much here, but i would consider those valid equivalents of local "pot". Also i've encountered an idea there somewhere i can only agree with, something like - playerbase is like a pyramid, you have a base where is majority, upper more competetive players and pros at the top, top ones are coming from lower tier so firs of all you have to support very bottom.

I personally would rather join big grey mass, because otherwise i feel like i getting into someone's party i've never been invited in a first place. Apparently most will do. Ofc you can do everything in interest for the elitists, ban n00bz, ban maps, ban all those thing *I* consider bad, but there are examples of where this path will lead. UT was full of elitists, some are even explicitly proclaim "i am an elitist and proud of it" but you can see what state UT now in: dead, dusted and forgotten and latest establishment of the series is in longest pre-alpha season ever. Besides folks probably will join games they want, and play how they want regardles of how many times local elite population will call them lazy scared noobs or throw any other eclectic slanderous barrages. Most will rightfully answer to that "shut up and let me enjoy a game". None have to put up with this, there are other many places to be in, things to do, and other methods to convert your free time into "fun" and, who knows, even with better efficiency rate.

quote: The most beautiful moments in games are often the ones where you are being unfairly ganged up on and forced to hold huge swathes of the map for your team while other players are sitting on a dildo in their bases. Its brutal, but if you hold your shit together there is nothing more rewarding than pulling through and feeling like a fucking titan as you swing the whole map with an army that operates like a huge, complex appendage of your will and beats down your opponents.